Doesn’t work when your side just fell asleep at the wheel and let the opposition take control. And that’s the charitable take. Your side decided it was more important to fund a genocide than combat all the scary things in the first list.
Taking a step back and having the revelation that your electoralism means definitive genocide no matter who’s in power should not be a reason to dig in and defend your electoralism. It should be reason to tear everything down.
Otherwise, youre taking the stance that Palestinians have a duty to allow themselves genocided to buy yourself time for more political waffling.
So did Biden and Harris wasn’t going to be any different. Biden even went around Congress to make damn sure Bibi got exactly what he wanted and then some.
The progressive side of our politics still lives in the dem party and we have a better chance of getting our ideas out there in that party. Either by election like Mamdani or by appointment like Lina Khan.
To be clear I don’t think Lina Khan was a lefty. Still her tenure in the FCC was rather pro consumer and pushing back on big corporations. That would not happen at all in any rep admin.
It’s more about power than ideas. The problem with the establishment Dems is not that they have the wrong ideas but that they have been purchased by the oligarchs who get to win whether they get a D or an R.
Weird how this is the conclusion you came to instead of figuring out that the “your side” you’re talking about isn’t our side and hasn’t been for a long time.
If you’re American, people like you are the reason Trump is president. He was always going to genocide Palestine, and if you’re saying so was Harris, then they’re equal on that and you should elect Harris. Then AFTER she’s in office you can pressure and throw mud and do everything possible to get the US to stop.
“Look how bad the other side is”
Doesn’t work when your side just fell asleep at the wheel and let the opposition take control. And that’s the charitable take. Your side decided it was more important to fund a genocide than combat all the scary things in the first list.
If you look around at what’s happening right now you’ll see this was a false choice. Trump was always going to give Bibi whatever he wanted.
Taking a step back and having the revelation that your electoralism means definitive genocide no matter who’s in power should not be a reason to dig in and defend your electoralism. It should be reason to tear everything down.
Otherwise, youre taking the stance that Palestinians have a duty to allow themselves genocided to buy yourself time for more political waffling.
So did Biden and Harris wasn’t going to be any different. Biden even went around Congress to make damn sure Bibi got exactly what he wanted and then some.
The progressive side of our politics still lives in the dem party and we have a better chance of getting our ideas out there in that party. Either by election like Mamdani or by appointment like Lina Khan.
To be clear I don’t think Lina Khan was a lefty. Still her tenure in the FCC was rather pro consumer and pushing back on big corporations. That would not happen at all in any rep admin.
It’s more about power than ideas. The problem with the establishment Dems is not that they have the wrong ideas but that they have been purchased by the oligarchs who get to win whether they get a D or an R.
What does this have to do with Biden giving Bibi exactly what he wanted?
The thread is about both-sides-sim. I pointed out a case in how its still helpful to vote as left as possible.
Yeah and left is not letting Bibi get a single thing, even if that means losing Israel as an ally and supporting a party that’s not a major one.
Weird how this is the conclusion you came to instead of figuring out that the “your side” you’re talking about isn’t our side and hasn’t been for a long time.
At least we’re not in the other car coming at us straight on.
If you’re American, people like you are the reason Trump is president. He was always going to genocide Palestine, and if you’re saying so was Harris, then they’re equal on that and you should elect Harris. Then AFTER she’s in office you can pressure and throw mud and do everything possible to get the US to stop.