Of course they are.
Who just searches on google for porn? wtf? That can’t be a legitimate sample of the public, can it?
Completely rational question if you, like me, also willingly assume rational thought from any member of the general public.
I watch a lot of true crime and you would not believe how many people commit a heinous crime and immediately start building the case against themselves googling shit. The American public is functionally brain damaged.
Where are you going? Some sticky TOR server or something?
I usually don’t have to worry about it because your parents let me watch.
Interesting, but not sure the data proves the headline. The best they can say is that such searches originating from red states are a significant portion of all US searches.
Obsessed: no definition or evidence to support this.
Republicans: not a definitive connection, though plausible.
I don’t want to say this is irresponsible reporting, but it’s not factually accurate either.
You mean yo say correlation is not causation?! How dare you, sir!? I challenge thee to a bartitsu duel!
There’s always a relevant XKCD.
There is always a relevant xkcd
Yeah not to mention some of the data for searches for porn coming from states with age age verification checks are using VPN’s to other states. (Like 80% of porn hub traffic from Louisiana dropped after the age verification laws, and VPNs went up across the board, as in those users likely were not just showing up as users from other states)
It’s bait. Take a vague dataset, and draw overgeneralized conclusions from it to play into people’s biases and hostilities.
And people LOVE it. They want to believe that republicans are all evil transphobes who are sitting around masturbating at trans porn all day, because it makes them feel good about themselves to setup these strawmen compare themselves too.
The truth of course, is far more nuanced and complex, but people don’t want to learn. They want to hate-masturbate and ego-stroke.
Oh and let’s not forget, all religion is bad and evil and hates sex!
…this is an overgeneralization
I’m pretty sure PornHub knows. Especially now that people are being verified in some red states.
I dont think pornhub does any verification, no? I thought they just blocked those states outright
I’m sure the states know too
Oh and let’s not forget, all religion is bad and evil and hates sex!
Nobody said that. Talk about straw men!
What are you smoking? basically every lemmy thread has that, and it’s in this thread. Lots of lemmy users are angst atheist types who are think anyone who is remotely religious is a fundamentalist and are completely ignorant of moderate or reformist sects that make up the majority of believers.
Oh, so this is a rant against Lemmy generally, not the person you were responding to. It would help if you made that clear at the start.
I am both atheist and religious BTW (Satanist), so some of those types get under my skin, too.
They are like REALLY good with computers too. The last one also did this cute hiss when a Tesla would drive past.
Ha! Next thing you are going to tell me is that gay meet up apps like Grinder get overloaded at Republican events.
I am honestly not surprised.
I knew some people in the calvinist bible-belt regions in Holland (they’re very strict, a bit similar to mormon, almost amish-like in terms of strictness except not having any aversion to technology). For example washing a car on sunday is absolutely out of the question and most people wear black those days. If you don’t show up in church the whole village will hate you.
Anyway so the video rental shops in those regions were buzzing with the worst kinda porn. One of my friends managed video rental shop and he said the relative porn amount was 2-3x bigger than in the city areas.
This is for people for whom porn is highly illegal according to their religion. Somehow it causes some kind of attraction for them.
I’m very atheist and sex-positive and very much into kink, polyamory etc but it was never because of the ‘forbidden’ element for me. So I find it hard to understand that. But I’ve definitely seen it being a big thing yes.
Anything that is taboo is attractive.
Easiest way to make kids not interested in something is for their parents to do it. Easiest way to get them interested is for their parents to forbid them from it.
Pot consumption among teens is plummeting, now that it’s legalized and teens see it as something that their lame parents like doing, rather than something cool and illegal.
Muah hah haa millennials, we done it again. Killed the goddamn pot industry.
Yes the exact same happened here in Holland 30 years ago when it was legalised. It became a deeply uncool “stoner” thing and none of my friends did it.
Unfortunately the countries around us kept calling hell all those years until it finally became a common thing.
Christ (and their society) can only forgive those who genuinely regret their sins, so their sins have to be something they genuinely regret. If they watched nice vanilla porn where people treated each other with respect, they might start actually enjoying sexuality, and then they might no longer regret it, and then they are doomed.
See also how rape fantasies are very popular in women’s erotic media because they absolve the protagonist and reader of having proactive sexual desires. You don’t need a Christian or Abrahamic framing for this, just a situation where people are ostracized for having unsuppressable natural desires. Binge eating, binge watching, doomscrolling, rotting in bed - shame creates perversion.
I’m not sure if this applies to all denominations. The Calvinists I spoke of don’t do confession and there’s definitely no forgiveness.
In Calvinism, the ritual of confession is a man sacriligeously trying to play God. But Jesus stilll died for God’s forgiveness. That’s the fundamental premise of Christianity. It’s just that any priest who claims to intercede on your behalf is a fraud.
Here’s a website maintained by a Presbyterian Calvinist minister.,
Ministers can attempt to divine the will of God through the Bible, but they are as much authorities on the matter as physicists are on quantum physics. Ultimately it is your responsibility to understand the will of God, to live accordingly, and to reckon with when you don’t.
No person can grant you forgiveness; not yourself, not your religious leader, and not your peers, only God can. So yeah, you would see no confession and no forgiveness in a strict Calvinist culture. People can only be forgiven after death by carrying their regrets with them all their lives.
As I understand it, in Holland they also have a thing called predestination, where they think their lives have already been decided for them including any sins they might commit, and including whether they go to heaven or hell. So there’s nothing really they can do about it during their lives. I don’t know if this is a specific branch. It always sounded pretty grim to me, though on the other hand I would think like “hey let’s go wild because whatever I do it won’t matter anyway”. But I probably grossly misunderstand the idea. Friends from that community have assured me that it definitely does not work that way 😅
Community also plays a big role in it, much bigger than I’ve seen in Catholicism. As in more judgmentally so.
I’m neither but I’ve lived in many places :)
Choice and “predestination” are unintuitive even in secular philosophy. The interpretation of quantum mechanics most popular among quantum physicists - the Many Worlds Interpretation - is a fully predestinatory model. Everything flows completely from the initial boundary conditions of the universe. Your choices are fully calculated in. Even if you experience quantum randomness in your perception, that’s just because you can only remember your own path on the quantum world tree - neighboring universes where the quantum randomness flipped the other way are outside of your perception.
This interpretation is 100% consistent with all observations we can make. And yet we observe ourselves making choices. This is because we do not understand the full complexity of our own neurology. We simplify the fully quantum-deterministic biological computer that is our body as a person with thoughts, feelings, and motivations. In this simplification, choice seems malleable, when in truth choosing the other option would either be physically impossible or down to a quantum coin flip with no intelligent reasoning behind it.
When we imagine someone “could have made” a different choice, we are implicitly imagining a slightly different universe (branch) from the one we live in, in which some different historical quantum perturbation or some difference in the material reality resulted in them making the other choice.
Which means that while a MWI supporter believes in predestination of sorts, they can still choose freely whether to have strawberry or pistachio ice cream. It’s just that the boundary conditions of the universe and the particular quantum perturbations of their particular quantum history result in them choosing one or the other.
While John Calvin was not a quantum physicist, he did preach a similar philosophy. Though this is definitely a point where the dozens of different branches of Calvinism differ on the theological details.
But roughly speaking, this means that while Calvinists do believe in predestination, they also believe/notice they can choose whether to live in sin or to obey god. It’s just that this choice is determined by God, as it is determined by God whether or not they go to hell. And according to the Bible, people who make “good” choices go to heaven and people who make “bad” choices go to hell. Therefore they choose “good”, or try to. Not because it earns them a place in heaven but so that if God chose to send them to hell anyway that would be kind of bullshit.
(This last sentence is heavily editorialized; it’s the sort of thing they’ve had regular schisms about)
So a Calvinist hearing your attitude would respond something like “Of course you would go wild if you knew the truth of predestination, you’re probably the sort of person that goes to hell”. When someone is ostracized from the community, the community comes to the collective conclusion that they’re probably the sort of person that goes to hell. They can’t know God’s will for certain, but the Bible tells them as much as anything can and it looks like the Bible says they’re doomed.
Meanwhile they, the good Calvinists, are probably predestined to Heaven, so all their bad actions are probably just bumps on the road to God’s mercy, right? … Right?
You should generally dismiss what physicists in academia say about metaphysics, because crackpot quantum mysticism is rampantly popular and so you rarely get anything coherent from them.
I would recommend you check out my article here. Most academics in the physics departments believe in a property called “value indefiniteness” which amounts to crackpot solipsism based on poorly reasoned arguments that obviously cannot possibly be correct because Louis de Broglie presented a counterexample decades before these crackpot arguments were even made.
This is a strange phenomenon that the physicist John Bell points out in his paper “On the Impossible Pilot Wave.” The “pilot wave” theory is a model which is mathematically equivalent to standard quantum mechanics yet is value definite, and was first presented by de Broglie in the Solvay conference in 1927. Yet, despite this, academics from John von Neumann to Richard Feynman would go on to publish “impossibility theorems” trying to prove value definiteness is impossible, even though they all had a counterexample sitting in their lap.
Bell would then go on to publish several papers showing where the flaws in all their arguments are, but it had no impact on academia, and solipsism remains the overwhelmingly dominant position. Indeed “value indefiniteness” really is just a renaming of solipsism to make it sound less ridiculous. It literally means that particles have no values when you’re not looking at them, and since macroscopic objects, even other human beings, are made up of particles, it naturally applies to them as well: value indefiniteness = other people don’t exist if you’re not looking at them.
Many Worlds arose from this same crackpot delusion of physicists who recognize that solipsism is kinda silly but don’t want to give up value indefiniteness… which is literally solipsism. So they try to find a middle ground between solipsism and solipsism and their views just end up becoming coherent.
Bell points out in his paper “Quantum Mechanics for Cosmologists” that Many Worlds is still basically just solipsism but with a lot of extra baggage to confuse people to what they are even arguing so it is not so obvious that it is. A lot of Laymen falsely think Many Worlds is just the claim that there are many classical worlds. If I go to measure a photon in a superposition of both possible paths, then they think it means there will be a classical world where I perceive it on one path and another classical world where I perceive it on another path.
No, Many Worlds is even more incoherent, because no one perceives anything on any path at all. There are simply no objects which travel through 3D space within the interpretation. Consider that you walk from your living room to your bedroom, and you remember clearly that you did that. Since Many Worlds is still value indefinite, there does not exist any definite trajectories in 3D space, and so your memory has to be a complete lie. That didn’t happen. Indeed, no matter how strongly you feel that there is a computer/phone screen in front of you right now, in Many Worlds, that also must be a lie, because no objects exist in 3D space so there cannot be an object with a definite value in front of you right now.
This is what Bell saw as so absurd about it. Everything we perceive and believe we have perceived has to be largely disconnected from the real world, almost as if we’re living in a fake simulation, a brain in a vat, that is entirely disconnected from what is “actually going on.” Many Worlds is more batshit idiotic than you are led to believe from YouTube videos. It does not follow from the science at all, but follows from the crackpot quantum mysticism of “value indefiniteness,” which has no basis in the mathematics at all. Even many of the believers in academia admit that no one knows how to actually derive what we actually perceive from the interpretation.
It’s not about confession. It’s about “Jesus died for your sins”. If his sacrifice “saves” you from your deepest, darkest perversions, the deeper and darker those perversions, the more meaningful the sacrifice.
Did he die just to save you from the perils of having lusted over an exposed ankle? Or does his sacrifice cover the 20 hours a week you spend fantasizing about hot Asian femboys pounding your tight ass?
Ah ok I never thought of it that way. That makes sense in a weird way (sorry)
Ps after 20 hours of ass pounding I’d need more than my soul to be saved 😅
highly illegal … it causes some kind of attraction
Go figure… wasn’t there something with Snake Plissken and Apple?
Tim Apple and the Solid Snake
I have no idea what you’re referring to :)
Don’t forget femboys and the entire set of gay porn. Double down on that closeted “Christian values”.
They didn’t forget femboys. They lumped them in with trans (even though they aren’t).
probably also gay porn too, since thier skinhead/nazi categories
With Peewee Himmler’s head resembling an anal plug i’m not surprised.
Yeah, these types are more obsessed with trans porn than actual chasers for some reason.
Is this the racism heatmap?
Not even close, but it’s a start…
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I don’t give a damn what kind of porn people watch. I do care that this colors their perspective on how trans people actually live. Most of us aren’t sex workers. And most of us that are don’t do it by choice. We’re just people trying to live our lives. This kind of thinking is incredibly dangerous, as it leads to believing that someone just being themselves in public is an act of sexual exhibitionism. I didn’t transition as a sex thing. My life is not a costume. I transitioned and have lived my entire adult life as myself, worked my entire career and built my entire life around my transitioned name and gender. Rather than a 24/7 drag act, most days I’m wearing jeans and hoodie.
We’re just trying to live our lives in peace. But a bunch of perverts are using their porn habits to inform their moral judgments about an entire class of people.
This ties into a bigger issue where almost nothing related to sexuality can ever be healthy or normal to many conservatives.
Sex to these conservatives is inherently deviant and filthy. Making conscious life decisions related to sexuality or sexual identity will never be just a life decision. It will be equivalent to actively engaging in sexual acts.
Being trans to them is actively paedophilic because it exposes children to the concept of sexuality and gender. Sex ed will be paedophilic to them because it does the same. Each person’s actions are not the sole thing that defines them, but also their position in society as dictated by “what it has always been”. Men have always led households by marrying women and having kids, therefore men that don’t are a threat.
Conservatism is quite black or white when it comes to things like identity or introspection. It is an ideology that very frequently wages war on self questioning and exploration in exchange for compliance and conformism. It’s why many conservatives hate universities, scientists and partially why they hate immigrants. The entire ideology grows by appealing to people who do not want to be intellectually challenged. It’s especially attractive to those that don’t want to understand other ways of thinking.
Conservatism as an ideology always exploits the greatest potential weakness of the left wing: naivety, and presents itself as the “responsible” or “reasonable” solution to a reckless and harmful left wing. They frame things like empathy and humanitarianism as weaknesses rather than virtues.
It’s why most of the conservative rhetoric revolves around “being taken advantage of” or “being scammed by” this or that group. They love stories about immigrants exploiting the system, cheating or stealing because it proves their worldview that what’s foreign and unknown is out to get them. It is an ideology driven by fear.
And the biggest problem is that, unlike progressivism (which also has its ideological vices and weaknesses), conservatism never seeks to help the weak or empower the vulnerable. Instead it seeks to maintain the hierarchy and keep people in their place. In the US that translates to keeping immigrants weak, keeping black people down, keeping women in the kitchen, keeping white men ahead, keeping the US as an imperial power, and keeping its allies subservient.
Being trans to them is actively paedophilic because it exposes children to the concept of sexuality and gender. Sex ed will be paedophilic to them because it does the same. Each person’s actions are not the sole thing that defines them, but also their position in society as dictated by “what it has always been”. Men have always led households by marrying women and having kids, therefore men that don’t are a threat.
Our own minds will expose us to sexuality way before the age of 18 though. This is why it’s so important to have sex ed. So that kids with feelings won’t go messing around (together!) and not knowing what’s what. In Holland we’ve always had that pretty early so teenage pregnancies were super low but lately the conservative forces have also taken hold there. It’s blowing over on social media. So now a lot of parents are up in arms over it especially in the mostly religious regions.
It’s why most of the conservative rhetoric revolves around “being taken advantage of” or “being scammed by” this or that group. They love stories about immigrants exploiting the system, cheating or stealing because it proves their worldview that what’s foreign and unknown is out to get them. It is an ideology driven by fear.
Yes but it somehow seems to resonate more than it should. I wonder if some people have an innate need for being told what to do. I absolutely don’t, I’m very anti-authoritarian. But really the religious conservative life is pretty shit. You have to go to church, have all these boring life rules, you can’t have sex with other consensual adults, etc etc. Being left-wing is much more free. Yet people choose to follow religion. I think the indoctrination as a child plays a role in this but I don’t really think it would catch on so much if it didn’t fill an innate need.
People like rules that are clearly defined.
They don’t like gray areas.
Because of the cognitive work involved. People do not want to think about things. They want to know them.
It’s not about authoritarianism, it’s about the features of our brains and biology. Learning is literally a painful process for the brain and people avoid it. Not any different than how physical exercise is painful and people avoid it.
People who seek to learn, just like people who seek physical exercise, have re-wired their brain to enjoy those things than by default, they would not.
Hmm interesting take! I didn’t think of it like that.
I do indeed enjoy learning and also chaos (and what you call gray areas), but I’m very ADHD. A bit autistic too but when it comes to rules the ADHD definitely takes the lead.
What? What the hell does transporn have to do with, 1. Your personal identity and 2. How everyone else perceives trans people? Porn is fantasy not real life.
Project 2025 literally has as one of its planks the idea that simply living life as a trans person is a pornographic act. This belief comes from men who see being trans and being pornographic as one and the same. Where do you think that belief comes from?
Not from transporn. That’s for sure. These assholes watching transporn is a symptom of what makes people believe in maga, nationalism and project 2025 in the first place. The porn comes after the indoctrination.
Hold on… Hold on. I know. But think about it. If you’re some bloke pulling your pud to transporn and liking it you’re not going to all of the sudden become a conservative.
But if you’re a maga asshole conservative and you’re being bombarded by anti trans bullshit and go on the internet, you know… Just to take a look to see what the fuss is all about… Then all of the sudden dang that’s hot where’s the jergens.
🤷
Man, you can’t just ignore how porn molds the way people see others and what they expect of them, be it men, women or trans people
I don’t know, I’m very sex-positive and I enjoy porn. Sometimes I even learn new things I like from it. I don’t think for a minute that it’s real and I would not apply it to vanilla people (my more kinky friends however yes if I know they’re into something).
I don’t really think my stepsister will get stuck in the washing machine. Does it form sexual behaviour and practices? Probably yes. I’m sure a lot of people try squirting now, which was popularised in porn. Is that bad? No, I don’t think so at all. Why would it be? Sex knows fashions just like other human behaviour.
The really crazy one is oral sex. It’s become so accepted and ubiquitous that if you don’t like it, you’re the weird one. But if you stop to think about it, it’s clearly a kink.
Yes I know that oral was not practiced a lot in the past within marriages in particular (though during the war in brothels I’m sure it was). But why do you think it’s particularly kinky?
I agree in terms of deep throating, that’s a bit of a kink and I personally don’t like doing it (even as the one being deep throated). That was popularized by its namesake movie I think.
But normal oral how is that so kinky? I personally love it, it’s a lot more gentle than regular sex. And it tastes so good 🤭 I even love doing that for hours (both ways) and skipping the penetration part altogether. 😋 But oral kinda feels like it’s meant to be done.
It’s not really a modern thing as such either. The kama sutra features a ton of it, including gay and lesbian versions.
You’re kinda proving my point. The reason why you don’t see it as kinky is because it’s so common. If it wasn’t common and normalized, people would see it as a kink. I’m kink-positive; I don’t have a problem with that. What I find interesting is how accepted and ubiquitous this one kink has become, and I think we have porn to thank for that.
It’s not really a modern thing as such either. The kama sutra features a ton of it, including gay and lesbian versions.
Well, that isn’t really surprising. I think you would have a really hard… er, difficult time finding a new kink. People have been horny for as long as there have been people, and every imaginable configuration has been tried out thousands of years ago. Except for vibrators or any of the other modern sex toys? Because those didn’t exist before.
It’s not about people thinking whether it’s fiction or not, it’s about whether porn is the only way these people will be confronted to something they don’t know and have biases against and, yes, porn is fiction, but you’re presuming that everybody has a sane approach to fiction. Have you not been in a post-truth regime enough, yet?
I mean ya… But this can be said about anything at all. How about the 24 hour news cycle… Just constant news all the time screaming in your face. Or flat Earth videos on YouTube… Millions of people believe the earth is flat. Or maga propaganda permeating literally everything nowadays.
We’re humans and can be easily influenced.
Furthermore I don’t see a mechanism that would support what’s being said under the original comment here that would be present in porn to support what you’re saying in context.
Millions of people might be watching a video, that doesn’t mean that millions believe it.
… How can you both understand and not understand at the same time? Are you american?
To sum it up, minorities suffer from the gaze that is cast upon them, especially if this gaze is exploitative, degrading, objectifying and made by and for the pleasure of the oppressor, thus reinforcing the oppressor’s bias against the minority.
If trans porn is the only way these men are confronted to the existence of trans people, they’d oversexualize the idea of trans, which in turn leads them to blame/despise the trans even more (because of both their conservative views and unhealthy relationship with sex), not even leaving trans people the space to be something else in their eyes than objects to jerk off to (aka “people”).
What does being American have to do with anything?
Provide a source to support what is clearly a biased opinion.
What you’re describing, objectification, is a downstream effect, not a cause. A person would already have to hold anti-trans views to behave the way you’re describing. The bias exists prior to the porn consumption, or that bias may even influence the type of content they seek out.
Roughly 7 out of 10 people in America watch porn at least occasionally. That represents a majority of the population. More than half the country is not anti-trans, which directly undermines your claim about “the perception of trans people.”
The person you are interacting with is trying to browbeat you because they don’t like what you are saying because they have some weird anti-porn beliefs, which frankly, a lot of people do. They themselves are falling trap to the ‘porn corrupts’ anti-sex narrative, while seemingly being critical of anti-sex narratives. I see this all the time.
And they are mad you are suggesting that all media corrupts, and porn isn’t some super special deeply influential thing compared to any other media consumption. You evil porn-normalizer!
The guy is clearly a troll who has no idea what he’s talking about. I went at it with him for a few more exchanges and had to block him. He was more stupid than your average idiot.
Yeah, got it from the “I’m suffering, for x, y and z reasons.” “No you’re not, prove it” vibe.
- it has everything to do with anything.
- Litterally, the trans person who you answered to, only to undermine them.
- Yes : “thus reinforcing the oppressor’s bias against the minority.”
- “If trans porn is the only way these men are confronted to” i am not generalizing, I’m taking about the precise people who’ll both hate trans people in public yet will happily jerk off to trans porn.
Once again, you choose not to understand what is right in front of your eyes, so you’re either:
1)Straight american brainrotten male, 2)autistic and need precise scientific references to believe something (too bad your president has forbidden it). 3) Conservative and incapable of good faith.
To sum it up, minorities suffer from the gaze that is cast upon them, especially if this gaze is exploitative, degrading, objectifying and made by and for the pleasure of the oppressor, thus reinforcing the oppressor’s bias against the minority.
You are making a very specific claim, so support it. Otherwise you’re just talking out of your ass, which you objectively are.
It is beyond obvious that you have a very strong bias against whatever you believe America is, and you are using the exact same tactic a MAGA conservative uses to support their ideology, which makes you no better. You even brought up autism, which is offensive and completely out of context.
Now, with that said, do you have any way to refute my claim that objectification is a downstream effect of MAGA indoctrination?
It’s just research!
Also explains why all the porn of us calls us slurs. I hate it.
(Seriously, it’s so hard finding trans porn that feels like it’s for trans people instead of for people that want to dehumanize us)
I have no issue finding trans porn that isn’t dehumanizing and has no slurs.
Yeah, me either. Sometimes there are slurs in the title, but that’s because you can’t control who uploads something and what labels they want to put on it.
Honestly, I think it goes deeper than that, I think that many guys that go for trans porn actually are very into it, probably because it’s such a “taboo” subject for them.
It’s similar to whenever there is a Republican or conservative convention somewhere, immediately it becomes a Grindr hotspot.
There are boat loads of gay / trans people in those extremist communities, because of course there are, and while publicly they will bash anything LGBT, privately they get off on it
See also that mega extremist church pastor that would constantly bash the gays and then got caught snorting coke from a gay prostitute
Edit:to add to this: I think that most trans porn made is not primarily made for trans people, but for men. Similarly to how most gangbang porn also isn’t for girls, it’s for men. Sure, trans people and girls can watch it, enjoy it, everyone is free to do whatever as long as they don’t hurt anyone or thing, as far as I am concerned, but the main audience is just plain men.
I know a guy who’s a sex worker and he has had quite a few clients who are actively homophobic. When he told me this, I made a comment based on the assumption that these guys were closeted gays with internalised homophobia and he said “no, I think it’s something deeper than that”
His theory was that it’s basically a convoluted humiliation kink, where they are genuinely grossed out by the idea of having sex with a man, but they do it anyway because of the tabooness of it
Oof, that’s dark.
I suppose there"s different kinds of extreme-right and evolutions.
All awful of course.
In Europe they misappropriate LGBT to make a point about Islam and their intollerance to it.
Same for women’s rights.
I do not particularly think they care for any of those.
Obviously everywhere they stopped being antisemitic to support their fascist zionist partners.
Its also like they all hate undocumented immigrants but only hire them for work.
My dad used to removed about immigrants taking jobs, but would swing by Home Depot to grab some Mexicans whenever he needed extra hands on a construction project. Conservatives are just hypocritical morons.
EDIT: Wow, this place bans the no-no synonym for the word “complains”? What in the seven nanny hells is that.
typical lemmy.ml
it’s one of the “bad” instances alongside grad, hexbear, and (to a lesser extent and in a different way) .world
Everybody can run a Lemmy server. That includes people who do not know the Scunthorpe problem.
I can say “bitch” just fine btw
Isn’t the Scunthorpe Problem when something gets unintentionally blocked? This seems very intentional.
Well I am a bit new to this but I guess I will find a new server if they are going to police my speech like that.
Is that a lemmy.ml filter?
Yup. They have to protect everyone from words cause that is really what causes all the problems of the world and language never adapts over time unless you force it too apparently.
Find a better server.
rant ? edit: ooh it’s probably… bitch, what a stupid word filter
EDIT: Wow, this place bans the no-no synonym for the word “complains”? What in the seven nanny hells is that.
cry harder about not being able to use misogynistic language mate
bitch
What a dork.
Lemmy is reddit 2.0…
Crazy that the site designed just like reddit turns out to be just like reddit.
I literally must migrated here to avoid stupid censorship 🥲
But have you glanced at community/overall rules copypasta?
Yeah, that’s so unbelievably not fucking surprising. A weird amount of harassment I’ve gotten for being trans has been kinda (or occasionally extremely) sexual. Also the redder the area the more I get street harassment.
ETA: Oh upon reading the article, the city I’m thinking of (Lexington, KY, I basically couldn’t take a walk without being catcalled there) is in the top 10 cities.
And yeah, anti trans bigotry is interesting because it seems to be an alliance of exterminationist bigotry (“x people should not exist or should be hidden and we should work towards that goal”, examples of targeted groups include disabled people, Jewish people, and gay people) and supremacist bigotry (“x people are our lessers and must be forced into their place beneath us”, anti black racism is the classic example). You have plenty of transphobes who just want us gone no matter what, but you also have quite a few who think our place is as discreet sex workers and are mad that we are insisting we deserve to live in society as equals and do whatever work we want. They were fine with us as prostitutes, but not as mechanics, as shameful side pieces but how dare we say we deserve to be spouses.
That perspective of us is deeply entwined in the insistence that anything pertaining to us is sexual. They look at us and reduce us solely to the lens of sex then condemn us for it. Then when some of us internalize that our only value as people is as sex objects they point and say “see look, we told you”.
Same is true for men/women who exhibit strong/exaggerated secondary sexual characteristics. Often it is viewed as inviting sexual harassment under the ‘they were asking for it’ stupidity.
I think there is a lot of overlap too, with people’s perceptions of trans presentation and say bimbofication, like they see your presentation as necessarily trying to call attention to yourself. And yeah for some really douchey people they see someone in wheelchair or etc as doing the same thing and for some reason it gets them angry for having to perceive difference in others.
Its almost like a form of OCD where they hyper fixate on something that is different that entered toeir awareness and then they become upset that they are hyperfixated on it and blame the person.
But also, unpopular opinion, but I do think there has been a large adoption of the patriarchal feminine archetypes in the trans community of trying to adopt that hyper femininity that grosses me out. You shouldn’t be inspired by the sex dolls of men to be a woman.
Oh hey, yeah I have noticed a lot of that too. People do weirdly feel the need to police other people’s body parts. A lot of the straight/bi women I have dated are particularly nasty about this and will make casual commentary about strangers presentation or bodies, and it’s a total double standard if I did that.
Trans community has it’s own massive issues internally. I have noticed also there is way more support and positivity for MtF than there is for FtM, and a lot of really hostile commentary on other people’s stage of transition, or their sexuality.
Sometimes I wonder, there does seem to be a cultural obsession with gatekeeping femininity and the so-called privileges of it, and yet nobody is seeking the privileges of masculinity. There is also a huge uptick in gender sentimentalism for cis people in bother presentation and gender roles, with those of us who don’t focus on such things as being considered less than.
Their hyper-conservative, hyper-religious cultural programming has them willing to do anything to alleviate the cognitive dissonance caused by is contrast with their natural inclinations. Because toxicly masculine patriarchy runs their world, they have no idea how to process their emotions and so they can out. They feel a deep rooted need to adhere to their socia pressuresl and psychological programming, and the result is their contradicting activities, and venomous denial of their taboo activities and thoughts.
I don’t have a solution, other than to stay the fuck away from these places.
