• lumpenproletariat@quokk.auOP
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      The sad irony is that by bringing attention to real bad events, I’m doing more for men than any MRA ever has.

      Guess it takes a feminist to care about men’s issues.

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    Just as an FYI, women’s day is coming up, the 8th of March.

    Last year, no one gave a fuck about men’s day, on the 19th of November. I care,and I fucking forgot too.

    Be prepared for the deluge of idiotic men saying “BuT wHeN iS mEn’S dAy” and idiotic women saying “tHe PatRiaRcHy DoEsN’t NeEd A dAy”.

    Next year, participate in international men’s day to bring attention to issues that everyday men face.

    EDit: Bring it to your friend’s attention. let the chuds know, and try to help address the problems that are causing their chudness, so maybe, they’ll stop being chuds

    EDIT2 : it’s not next year, it’s this year. fucking hell, do I know when men’s day is, or how to calculate a calendar?

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      comedian Richard Herring usually spends the entire day on social media answering every single question about when International Men’s Day.

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        it’s almost as if it needs visibility and for people to give a fuck about it when it rolls around, so that we can get these problems accepted and taken seriously as a society, and for chuds to shut the fuck up.

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    All of these are singular examples of events that are presumably violations of existing law, except the last frame which is about changing policy and affects the state’s position on all events in the future. They are not the same.

    And also, the vast majority of men are in favor of criminalizing rape of any kind.

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      the vast majority of men are in favor of criminalizing rape of any kind

      not in India, where this comic’s from

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      …presumably violations of existing law … changing policy … They are not the same.

      This is kind of bonkers. Women’s advocacy doesn’t split this hair, gay advocacy doesn’t split this hair, trans advocacy doesn’t split this hair, racial advocacy doesn’t split this hair. The challenges facing any identity or demographic group are often only weakly affected by the law.

      All of the problems listed are cultural problems, problems caused in no small part by men’s own values and attitudes about what manhood should be.

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      There’s a significant number of men who don’t realize marital rape is even a thing, here in the US.

      So they completely agree that “rape of any kind” should be criminalized, as well as going home and raping their wives cuz “god said so.”

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      Yeah, that’s why as soon as someone gets accused of rape, if you dare say that they’re a piece of shit you get a ton of “innocent until proven guilty”

      Even on lemmy, people keep on defending rapists. When I dared to complain about the term “allegedly raped” about the son of the princess of whatever that was good friends with epstein who had fucking literal videos that he took of the rape, people started defending it by saying that he’s innocent until proven guilty. Inescapable evidence? Believing the many, many victims that reported him? No, let’s instead pretend that we are in a court of law so that we can support the rapists.

      Most men are definitely not against rape. I’m not sure that most people are, in general. They might be superficially against the idea, but practically speaking they don’t want to disturb the social status quo that protects rapists by pretending that rape victims are liars.

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        “Innocent until proven guilty” is about not prematurely judging when you don’t know the facts. It’s not about defending rapists - it’s about defending people who are possibly not rapists.

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          Are you a judge or a lawyer? Or even, a newspaper?

          If not, then why do you have to follow a legal safeguard?

          Why are people not saying that Trump is allegedly doing bad stuff, he hasn’t been formally condemned, so innocent until proven guilty?

          If it’s not about defending rapists, then why is it that people only say that when it protects rapists and the like, but not for other criminal activities?

          And last but not least, saying innocent until proven guilty about a rapist, is prematurely judging that the victims are lying. So you’re deciding to trust someone, and you’re trusting the one accused of rape rather than the victims.

          But thanks for proving my point.

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            why do we have ideals? does the fact that you have carved an exception in “innocent until proven guilty” out for rape say more about you or us

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              What are you even trying to say?

              Are you really implying that ideals should overcome justice, even when those ideals have been proven many times to not work?

              Are you really saying that rape victims are able to get believed through the legal system, and that rapists get punished?

              Keep on defending rape bro.

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                  Ah, you’re one of those team-rapist that consider that it’s more common for victims to lie about getting raped, than not? That it’s fun to say to the world “hey I’ve been sexually abused and treated like a worthless crap”, while knowing that it’s very unlikely that anything will ever happen to the culprit? That’s pathetic.

                  If people accuse me of rape, I’m going to address it. And then you can form your opinion, just like with everything else. This is not. A. Court. You have the right to have a brain on your own, even though you visibly don’t use that right.

                  On top of that, you didn’t even just say “accused” but “credibly accused”, which means with a relatively good level of credibility. If in a case like that, you decide to still believe that the victims are lying, I’m sorry but you are part of the group of pieces of shit that defend, support and ultimately protect rapists. You decide to say “I will ignore all evidence, and believe a rapist until the victim manages to prove the rape legally, which is in most cases impossible”.

                  You sound like a very nice and likeable person.

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    There are peoples talk about this problems. Some of the problems usualy not gender spesific (like bullying, workplace accidents, and wrongfully jailed) and not seen as just male problems. But somehow you heard none of them. I think problem is you.

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      the point is that a lot of these examples of similar severity that happen to women would get rallying and protests from time to time, yet the MRA movement doesn’t say a word when these examples of patriarchy hurt men

      school bullying and blue-collar work forcing definitely discriminate against men. there’s similar issues that also affect women, one prominent one being (generally white-collar) workplace discrimination

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    I support men’s rights to be men. Even when society and radical feminists say otherwise.

    …which almost exclusively happens to trans men. (And TERFs aren’t very good feminists anyway)

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    I can guess what it is well enough from the context, but for future reference, what does “MRA” stand for?