Begging anyone else here with parents above the age of 50 to help me convince my parents to stop taking the AI overview at face value. I’ve explained to them calmly 100 times how the AI overview can and has been known to be inaccurate at times and that further reading should be done when using it but they just act like I’m some paranoid luddite and blow me off. I wouldn’t care nearly as much if it was just random stuff that doesn’t matter but they use it for medical information frequently. My dad is LITERALLY a medical professional and I’m a med student. It shouldn’t have to come to this. I want to bash my head into a wall. Please help.
I don’t agree. But not for the reason you might think.
The regular search results on Google are so bad that sometimes the AI overview yields better results.
Lately though, I’ve been using Bing.
Adding -ai to the search seems to work if you can’t install a uBlock filter or NoScript.
may i introduce you to my friend noai.duckduckgo.com
to add:
In Firefox, go to Settings>Search, scroll down and add it to the list of search engines with this url:
https://noai.duckduckgo.com/?q=%25sedit: /?q=%s is the right ending for the url, no idea why it adds a 25 every time I send the text ugh
That way, you can set it as your browser search engine and use it from your top search bar.
if you have the search bar in your toolbar, you can also use: https://mycroftproject.com/install.html?id=123469&basename=ddg_noai&icontype=ico&name=DuckDuckGo+-+no+AI
How much longer will it take for no AI DDG to go back to being the default again?
at least ddg search assist is tolerable since it’s unobtrusive and sits behind a click
Every time i see an AI summary, i give it a thumbs down and say « answer is incorrect / misleading ».
unless, of course, the answer actually IS wrong: then i give it an enthusiastic thumbs up
It’s usually just a copy of the Wikipedia page anyway, so I just follow that link. Utterly pointless.
It used to be you use a search engine to find places that have more about the thing you searched for.
Now it’s just, “The thing you searched for is this. You probably already knew that, but fuck you. Now that you’ve made it this far and gotten nothing, scroll down for some clickticles mentioning the thing. Keep going, keep going, keeeep going… There. This site may be a resource of stuff on that thing if you wanna try, but don’t be surprised if you click back after a moment because the algorithm is basically fucked for actual searching. Have you tried Page 5? Yeah, it’s full of unrelated shit. It looks like Pages 1 and 2 are all that the entire internet has on that thing, probably.”
Let’s be honest, many thing broke the internet, but Google was a big contributor to its current state and my god does it suck now. Why do we even still call them “browsers”?
Have you tried Page 5? Yeah, it’s full of unrelated shit. It looks like Pages 1 and 2 are all that the entire internet has on that thing, probably.
This is so real. You’re lucky if you even get anything useful on page 1, but anything beyond it is completely useless, unrelated stuff. And it isn’t just Google.
uBlock origin with AI Blocklist. Works like a charm.
Thanks! I was just planning on just just checking it out, but when I saw that I could add it to uBlock with a couple clicks, I went ahead and did it.
Easy fix, stop using Google search!
What do you recommend?
Kagi is a nice substitute of google, not free, though. As fle me, their basic 300 searches a month ia enough, even though i search a lot for DD links and homework.
Waterfox defaults to startpage out of the box, but I think duckduckgo is the most “mainstream” alternative
Switching out your default search engine away from google is such an easy step to take that has a massive impact on how much google can spy on you. It should go without saying that chrome is obvious spyware
Startpage and kagi have been closest to the golden age of search for me (2004-12 ish)
Brave search does also have AI, but it doesn’t seem annoying, and you have to expand it yourself to see it. It isn’t shoved down your throat.
Having an AI overview is handy to have around when you actually want it. On Brave it’s just available. Also it doesn’t tend to hallucinate what isn’t supported in the search.
Maybe Brave is using a summary model and google is using a retro-fitted chat model. So theirs ends up opinionated and wants to share extra facts. But I can only speculate.
I cannot get Normie’s off google and it drives me insane. They’re all walking around parrotting incorrect AI answers. Co workers are doing it too.
I hate humans, man.
The whole reason I’ve switched to DuckDuckGo on all devices, but there’s also the fact the google page is heavy as fuck and takes too long to load because of the AI bloatware
Use startpage or searxng! Or kagi
All of these comments are AI generated.
I go to hug my wife for comfort. She too is AI
I run NoScript or GNUJS blocker. That 100% stops AI search summaries.
What is that weird watermark?
I’m trying to figure out why everyone is so mad about AI?
I’m still in the “wow” phase, marveled by the reasoning and information that it can give me, and just started testing some programming assistance which, with a few simple examples seems to be fine (using free models for testing). So I still can’t figure out why theres so much push back, is everyone using it extensively and reached a dead end in what it can do?
Give me some red pills!
The ideology of AI is consistent with far right facist hyper surveillience regimes, for starters.
Why do you think scam altman was drumpfs largest donor?
Its no more useful than a wikipedia page, and the most damning part is it consistently just makes shit up
The whole “let me summarise this for you” is pointless to me and is EVERYWHERE. It just adds a lot of friction in my everyday work with zere benefits. If I have a 10 pages pdf document, it means every single line and word is important to me, an summary is totally pointless and can be dangerous.
And I also see a world where people use LLM to enhance their emails, develop their ideas and then the reader of this email uses an LLM to mak a summary of this overly developped writing they recieved. It doesn’t help people to go straight to the point and just adds a lot of friction in communications with zero benefits.
Most of the people obsessed by IA in their workfield are tech people. They have a strong biais that IA will solve everything because it has a very strong impact on their work. In my work (not tech), I tried some new IA stuff and realised it was far from being reliable so on only use it once in a while. And I guess, for many people outside the tech world, LLM are not that usefull overall despite what they hear everyday from tech companies. So there is a huge gap of perception of IA and LLM betweet tech people and other people. I think that’s where all the “hate” comes from.
For most people, IA just costs a lot of energy, rises the prices of hardware without bringing theme any tangible benefits.
I hope my personal point of view helps you understant better why people are upset with current state of IA. I am a “tech curious” person and tried some IA stuff over the past 2-3 years and ended up being very disapointed by the results.
tl;dr : Most people don’t see the benefits of IA, they only see the cost of it.
So there is a huge gap of perception of IA and LLM betweet tech people and other people.
You are correct that there are reasons tech people are more inclined to like these things, but it’s not really because AI is useful to them.
Actually, here’s a good video about its usefulness.
I think the reason tech people are so bought into it is a combination of
- their careers depending on them liking the new tech thing,
- a general sci-fi inspired enthusiasm for what can be accomplished,
- a dash of everyone in this industry being an introvert with no friends,
- and the misconception that, because they can engineer something, they are smarter than the people around them.
That last bullet, I don’t know if you remember the contemptuous rivalry between stem majors and the arts or humanities, any major that was less “useful”—that’s the exact smug attitude I’m talking about. There are a lot of people who think they could just program away life’s many problems.
I’m a very techy person and am vastly more fascinated by tech from 1977 to around 2010 than anything today. Most stuff today is boring and serves only to surveil and destroy our lives bit by bit. Besides medical advancements.
Yeah… :/
I just like video games.
Same. But I’m 1000% more impressed by devs getting Crash to run on ps1 than I am by ubisoft cranking out slop every year that requires accounts and data theft, and constant updates to a never finished game.
I just want a game that is done. I hate this constant updates bull. It ruins replayability for games too and kills any nostalgia a young person may ever have because they keep changing it more and more and then eventually shut servers down for a game you paid for. Most things suck now.
I like the top comment of the video you suggested. It sums up the current issue : “A computer can never be held responsible, therefore a computer must never make a management decision” - IBM training manual, 1979 Decisions cannot be automated. Many jobs require a lot of decision making and taking responsibility of these decisions.
Theres good reasona for luddite behaviour “they tuk er jerrrbs” style. Theres good reasons for environmental impact. Theres good reasons for fear of privacy, and cyberpunk dystopian overlords forming, and possibly terminators, and anger over theft of intellectual property etc, the fact that you didnt ask for it and its happening to you anyway, the effect its having on the hardware market for home computers/gaming, the fact that its not actually reliable yet.
Theres a lot going on in that space.
You’re right though its pretty incredible, and im still impressed by it, but I dont want to use it because i know it’ll be wrong a lot of the time. The only thing I’d want to use it for is to help me with things I dont know, and in that space I dont know that its doing it wrong. Either I blindly trust it and fuck up my project, or I research everything myself as well to make sure its right and at that point why bother?
It is a marvel, and is pretty great really. Main issues with AI today are that they are hardware-intensive and require cooling, tons of storage and computing capacity, replace workforce with subpar performance, etc.
You see, modern LLMs are generative AI and not really a sentient AI. They have tons of texts and content in their database from which AI will generate answer to your prompt. But more often than never it would generate things that are wrong. AIs task is to generate, not actually think.
It should’ve make us work less hours and have more free time by enhancing our productivity. Yet we lose jobs and have to work more hours while earning less.
Just give us more ram bro and we’ll have agi I promise bro just 30000 more acres of farmland and 10 billion gallons of water bro that’s all we need
