Let’s say if we were to meat someone from a different universe where things never die, how would you explain death to them?

  • Randomgal@lemmy.ca
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    4 hours ago

    That pile of dirt is going to walk and talk around for a while. And then it’s going back to being an insert pile of dirt.

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    without death there is no end and without end there is no real beginning either since the word doesnt even have meaning at that point. And without end there is also no change, because changing enough would be also kind of an ending and also “dying” as one version of you stops and another begins. Could such being even be sentient enough to understand you? Would it want to be?

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      3 hours ago

      I’m going to push back a bit. Ending doesn’t necessitate death. A movie ends. You don’t need an end to have a beginning, either—the positive integers begin at 1. Your second sentence is begging the question. You assert that without death there couldn’t be endings, and change is a kind of ending, so without death there couldn’t be change. But plenty of things change without dying. I used to be a baby. My infancy ended without my infant death.

      If we take OP’s question to include anything that could even metaphorically be compared to death, then there wouldn’t even be such a universe, because any instant in time could be described as the “death” of a prior instant in time

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        6 hours ago

        Idk yet! I’m still reading it lol. I just got to the part where he ponders explaining sleep to Rocky, and it reminded me of that. Then I saw your comment talking about getting energy directly from sunlight and I was like “this dude must be reading it too” lol

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    10 hours ago

    I’m having trouble imagining a real universe “where nothing ever dies”. What counts as a thing? What counts as dying? If nothing ever changes then nothing dies, but if nothing changes then I can’t explain anything at all to this person.

    Alternately, they’re from a toy universe, like a game with no death condition, but even those depend on outside things to continue existing. Eventually the game stops and everything in the universe “dies”, but otherwise there’s nothing in their world that ever dies. Maybe that’s close enough.

    Anyway:

    “You know how right now I’m talking, but eventually I’m going to stop? Imagine being like that.”

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    16 hours ago

    You know when someone isn’t around and you can’t see them? Well imagine that someone were in a place where no one in the world could see them. The person in this separate place is sleeping but does not dream.

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    21 hours ago

    You know how right now, things are happening in other places that you’ll never be a part of or know about, because you can only be in one? It’s like that but with times.

    It gets across the concept of nonexistence, although that might leave confusion about if you live only once or multiple times. If they’re still born at some point, I could say it’s like that but the opposite.

  • 3rdXthecharm@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    “Like a leaf caught aflame, it’s matter converted to heat and the bonds broken down to ash. It’s not gone, it’s structure has changed to the point of no longer being ‘a leaf’, and what we see before us when looking at someone/something who has passed on is the same as ashes in the fire. Changed, but jot truly gone”

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    1 day ago

    You describe birth, youth, parental love, new beginnings, etc. first, because those things could not exist without death.

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    All biological functions of an organism stops.

    Now what happens to the mental and cognitive functions is unknown.