That is not remotely what the bill says. It just say that a school can’t fail a kid because of their religion or politics. The kid still has to do the academic work.
(3)(a) A student may express his or her religious,58
political, or ideological beliefs in coursework, artwork, and other written and oral assignments free from discrimination oracademic penalty. A student’s homework and classroom assignments shall be evaluated, regardless of their religious, political, or ideological content, based on expected academic standards relating to the course curriculum and requirements. A student may not be penalized or rewarded based on the religious, political, or ideological content of his or her work if the coursework, artwork, or other written or oral assignments require a student’s viewpoint to be expresse
So what happens when the student writes a sermon instead of doing the assignment, rightfully gets a 0 for not doing the assignment, and then writes to the governor and right wing media apparatuses complaining about religious discrimination?
Or maybe, and I know this can be hard to believe, the university gets scared of baseless suits backed by powerful figures supported by disingenuous interpretations of these kinds of laws and they bow to political pressure and fire the people that gave the assignment so they don’t have to defend themselves in a costly, frivolous case?
If that were to happen, and I know it’s a stretch and would never actually happen in the US because every civil entity here has steadfast morals based upon dignity and respect, then modifying laws that already forbid discrimination to make the language a bit more ambiguous and easier to use as a cudgel is a dangerous move targeting our educators.
Guys, come on. How do y’all not know the conservative’s playbook by now? They only have two plays.
They do really evil shit.
They do rage bait shit.
When they do evil shit they don’t hide it under 15 levels of riddles. They really aren’t smart people. Their really evil shit stuff is like “Here’s $300 billion for concentration camps with gas chambers.” They don’t hide it.
But every single time you guys always reliably fall for their rage bait shit. Every time. They could whisper “God” and your guys lose your minds. Every time. Like clockwork.
There’s rage bait and there’s making laws. Even if meant in jest, laws still are expected to be followed with deleterious consequences for disobedience.
It does no one good to let evil slide just cause you think they’re messing around.
There was a story about a student in Oklahoma getting a zero on an assignment and they suspended the teacher after the student complained.
You read the assignment and it’s just really crappy, not merely religious, but because it had a religious bent, the conservatives exploded and asserted religious persecution. Even as anyone reading the assignment could see it was crap and the evaluators have a clear response explaining that the religious facet wasn’t the problem, conservative media ran wild with the story. Most of the time they didn’t even include the assignment or response, telling the audience to be outraged without letting them decided for themselves.
The wording may claim someone shouldn’t be rewarded just for their religious views, but when it does come up, they demand a passing grade just because they assert “God’s will”.
This is generally already covered, but the very specific wording is ammunition to scenarios like the this.
I’m aware of that case, and if you read the language of the bill it doesn’t address that situation very well.
That case is a weird one because I actually think both sides, the student and the graduate assistant grader, were wrong. And ultimately I think the GA was more wrong because the GA held the position of authority in the situation. I generally think that those in authority should be held to more strict standards.
In that specific case that you, there was a very clear scoring rubric published that the GA was supposed to follow. (You can find the rubric published online.) There is no possible way a rational person could read the grading rubric and conclude the student deserved a 0. Yes, it was a very stupidly written essay, but it wasn’t a zero -not if you follow the published rubric. The student was given a zero only because of religious discrimination. The grader should have followed the rubric. If the grader has followed the rubric then the student still would have likely failed the assignment, but the grader would have been able to justify the grade and would probably have avoided getting disciplined.
That’s my position on that. I’m sure you disagree and believe the student was 100% at fault.
I saw someone point out that it should have received a non zero score, however the word count was low enough to get hit by the stated 10 point deduction. And they thought it might be a 7 to 9 out of 25, but the word count brings it to zero.
Also it was just one assignment, not like they even were going to flunk the class, especially if, as she asserted, she otherwise had perfect scores on these reaction essays.
Actually if you really read the bill most of the additions are concerning protecting political speech, not religious speech (which was already protected).
So if it’s anything more than a political social media bait, then it’s about ensuring conservative kids can praise Trump, not God. (But really, it’s just bait that you guys are happy to swallow.)
The title of this article is garbage and the article itself also pretty bad. The connection between the text of the bill and the text of the article is tenuous at best.
It was really confusing to read this article but I don’t think most people reacting to it even tried.
That is not remotely what the bill says. It just say that a school can’t fail a kid because of their religion or politics. The kid still has to do the academic work.
https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2026/835
(3)(a) A student may express his or her religious,58 political, or ideological beliefs in coursework, artwork, and other written and oral assignments free from discrimination oracademic penalty. A student’s homework and classroom assignments shall be evaluated, regardless of their religious, political, or ideological content, based on expected academic standards relating to the course curriculum and requirements. A student may not be penalized or rewarded based on the religious, political, or ideological content of his or her work if the coursework, artwork, or other written or oral assignments require a student’s viewpoint to be expresse
So what happens when the student writes a sermon instead of doing the assignment, rightfully gets a 0 for not doing the assignment, and then writes to the governor and right wing media apparatuses complaining about religious discrimination?
Well they would also need a series of Judges and a jury to also be in on the scam.
Not saying that’s not possible in Florida, but if that’s the case then they didn’t really need to pass a new law anyway, did they?
Or maybe, and I know this can be hard to believe, the university gets scared of baseless suits backed by powerful figures supported by disingenuous interpretations of these kinds of laws and they bow to political pressure and fire the people that gave the assignment so they don’t have to defend themselves in a costly, frivolous case?
If that were to happen, and I know it’s a stretch and would never actually happen in the US because every civil entity here has steadfast morals based upon dignity and respect, then modifying laws that already forbid discrimination to make the language a bit more ambiguous and easier to use as a cudgel is a dangerous move targeting our educators.
Guys, come on. How do y’all not know the conservative’s playbook by now? They only have two plays.
When they do evil shit they don’t hide it under 15 levels of riddles. They really aren’t smart people. Their really evil shit stuff is like “Here’s $300 billion for concentration camps with gas chambers.” They don’t hide it.
But every single time you guys always reliably fall for their rage bait shit. Every time. They could whisper “God” and your guys lose your minds. Every time. Like clockwork.
There’s rage bait and there’s making laws. Even if meant in jest, laws still are expected to be followed with deleterious consequences for disobedience.
It does no one good to let evil slide just cause you think they’re messing around.
Boy, I mean I know the make George Carlin Americans but damn can I sell you a bridge now?
I’m the only one here that actually bothered to look up and read the law.
No, but you’re the only one that doesn’t seem to understand the intent behind these bills.
A Republican wrote it - which means it’s either a dirty trick or will be eventually
This story is dumb, this girl is dumb, and these cunts need to fuck off out of the classrooms they failed out of the first time around
her grifter mother is a jan 6 lawyer, who is defending the 1500 people too. and she is looking to be the next fox new bimbo talkinghead.
There was a story about a student in Oklahoma getting a zero on an assignment and they suspended the teacher after the student complained.
You read the assignment and it’s just really crappy, not merely religious, but because it had a religious bent, the conservatives exploded and asserted religious persecution. Even as anyone reading the assignment could see it was crap and the evaluators have a clear response explaining that the religious facet wasn’t the problem, conservative media ran wild with the story. Most of the time they didn’t even include the assignment or response, telling the audience to be outraged without letting them decided for themselves.
The wording may claim someone shouldn’t be rewarded just for their religious views, but when it does come up, they demand a passing grade just because they assert “God’s will”.
This is generally already covered, but the very specific wording is ammunition to scenarios like the this.
I’m aware of that case, and if you read the language of the bill it doesn’t address that situation very well.
That case is a weird one because I actually think both sides, the student and the graduate assistant grader, were wrong. And ultimately I think the GA was more wrong because the GA held the position of authority in the situation. I generally think that those in authority should be held to more strict standards.
In that specific case that you, there was a very clear scoring rubric published that the GA was supposed to follow. (You can find the rubric published online.) There is no possible way a rational person could read the grading rubric and conclude the student deserved a 0. Yes, it was a very stupidly written essay, but it wasn’t a zero -not if you follow the published rubric. The student was given a zero only because of religious discrimination. The grader should have followed the rubric. If the grader has followed the rubric then the student still would have likely failed the assignment, but the grader would have been able to justify the grade and would probably have avoided getting disciplined.
That’s my position on that. I’m sure you disagree and believe the student was 100% at fault.
I saw someone point out that it should have received a non zero score, however the word count was low enough to get hit by the stated 10 point deduction. And they thought it might be a 7 to 9 out of 25, but the word count brings it to zero.
Also it was just one assignment, not like they even were going to flunk the class, especially if, as she asserted, she otherwise had perfect scores on these reaction essays.
All that is already in effect in the actually sensible form. Therefore this bill must be about enforcing an insensible interpretation.
Actually if you really read the bill most of the additions are concerning protecting political speech, not religious speech (which was already protected).
So if it’s anything more than a political social media bait, then it’s about ensuring conservative kids can praise Trump, not God. (But really, it’s just bait that you guys are happy to swallow.)
I was reading your comment with interest until you decided to act superior and insult everyone. Bye!
The title of this article is garbage and the article itself also pretty bad. The connection between the text of the bill and the text of the article is tenuous at best.
It was really confusing to read this article but I don’t think most people reacting to it even tried.
No one looks and thinks anymore. They just react.