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      Well, they did do a revolution using vanguardism, and saved Europe from fascism. Different context in backwards feudal Russia than industrial England

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        1. The USSR did do a revolution. And the end result of it was a fascist state-capitalist hellscape under Stalin, and authoritarian state-capitalist shithole after
        2. Because of said fascist state-capitalist hellscape, generals had to get on their hands and knees and beg Stalin to let them lead the defense of the USSR as the Nazis blew their way through USSR territory. Thus causing the single greatest death toll of any single nation in the war
        3. Oh yeah, and the proletariat never came even close to owning the means of production, eliminating the system of capital, or eliminating the state, or really anything Marx preached.
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          The hellscape of the USSR with its abolition of unemployment through guaranteed jobs, abolition of homelessness through guaranteed housing, free education to the highest level, universal healthcare, retirement pensions at 60 years of age (55 for women), highest level of unionization in the world at the time, lowest inequality rates, complete alphabetization and the more than doubling of life expectancy. So horrifying.

          The Bolsheviks correctly predicted an attack by capitalist nations and started the fastest industrialization in history up to that point in 1929, growing the Soviet industrial output by 15% yearly up to 1941. Without this, there is simply no possibility that the Soviets would have defeated Nazism, and every nation between Germany and the Urals would have suffered the same degree of extermination that the Poles did. There is no way around it: through the undeniable defeat of Nazism thanks to planned successful rapid industrialization, the Soviets saved tens of millions of lives.