So having never had a genetic test it is impossible for me to know my sex? In fact, for the vast majority of people in the world we don’t know their sex at all!
In that case it seems excessively foolish to have laws and policies based around sex, because 99% of the population have not had the appropriate tests to determine their sex.
I take it you accept the biological reality. It’s actually the case that most people know their sex. Anyone that has had a child knows what their sex is.
It’s true that in a lot of cases, sex isn’t particularly important. That’s OK! But sometimes it matters, like in elite sports. Athletes have to go through many invasive testing procedures to compete, and including a simple, noninvasive sex test is not a burden.
So until someone has a child it is impossible to know their sex without genetic testing? Still seems absurd to have any rules or polices regarding sex. How can we separate children by sex if we don’t know their sex?
You’re really trying here, but still no. There are many easy ways to determine sex. Having a child is one of them. Your argument that most people don’t know their sex is wrong.
Sex is empirically verifiable. Gender is not. Laws and rules based on sex can be enforced without bias. If you think laws shouldn’t be based on empirical facts, advocate for change.
This is all a digression from the fact that Khelif is self-admittedly male. If you think Khelif should be able to compete in women’s leagues regardless then convince the sport authorities to change the rules away from sex.
This is all a digression from the fact that Khelif is self-admittedly male.
Not what Khelif has said in the slightest. You’re trying to distract from your argument defining her as such.
Khelif made a statement.
You responded to that with the erroneous statement “that makes Khelif male”.
I’ve been responding directly to your statemen, and you’re saying that’s a digression despite it being your entire argument, because you can’t actually defend it. You’re stating it as a fact, and when questioned claim that it doesn’t matter while continuing to assert it as fact.
So far we have determined that according to you the only way for someone to know what sex they are is if they have a child or get genetically tested. What bathroom should I use? Don’t know because I haven’t had a child. My niece wants to join an after school sports team, guess we better have them genetically tested first so we know what team they are allowed to be on, because unless she gets pregnant there is no other way to tell.
You’re spewing lies. Please stop. Khelif admitted to being male. That’s indisputable. If you’re confused, please reread the article and above diagrams. It’s made to educate ignorant people. You can become educated.
Giving birth is one way of knowing. Please stop acting mentally disabled.
Again, never actually happened. Only under your definition of male that no one else uses because it is completely useless as a classification.
Giving birth is one way of knowing.
You’ve said there are many ways to know, but somehow can only keep giving the same one. As I’ve said repeatedly: someone who has not given birth cannot know. I guess we should limit women’s sports to people who have been impregnated. That is the only logical conclusion I can come to from your arguments. Why else would you keep bringing up giving birth as “one way” (the only way) to know?
Please stop acting mentally disabled.
And some abelism for good measure. I’m expect to believe you are rational, level headed, and empathetic when this is how you respond to someone who disagrees with you?
So having never had a genetic test it is impossible for me to know my sex? In fact, for the vast majority of people in the world we don’t know their sex at all!
In that case it seems excessively foolish to have laws and policies based around sex, because 99% of the population have not had the appropriate tests to determine their sex.
I take it you accept the biological reality. It’s actually the case that most people know their sex. Anyone that has had a child knows what their sex is.
It’s true that in a lot of cases, sex isn’t particularly important. That’s OK! But sometimes it matters, like in elite sports. Athletes have to go through many invasive testing procedures to compete, and including a simple, noninvasive sex test is not a burden.
Clearly not, as you are claiming Khelif’s mother did not know the sex of her own child. So how could anybody know without a gentic test?
Other way around. Khelif’s mother knows what her own sex is. She gave birth to Khelif. Only one sex is capable of that in humans
So until someone has a child it is impossible to know their sex without genetic testing? Still seems absurd to have any rules or polices regarding sex. How can we separate children by sex if we don’t know their sex?
You’re really trying here, but still no. There are many easy ways to determine sex. Having a child is one of them. Your argument that most people don’t know their sex is wrong.
Sex is empirically verifiable. Gender is not. Laws and rules based on sex can be enforced without bias. If you think laws shouldn’t be based on empirical facts, advocate for change.
This is all a digression from the fact that Khelif is self-admittedly male. If you think Khelif should be able to compete in women’s leagues regardless then convince the sport authorities to change the rules away from sex.
Not what Khelif has said in the slightest. You’re trying to distract from your argument defining her as such.
Khelif made a statement.
You responded to that with the erroneous statement “that makes Khelif male”.
I’ve been responding directly to your statemen, and you’re saying that’s a digression despite it being your entire argument, because you can’t actually defend it. You’re stating it as a fact, and when questioned claim that it doesn’t matter while continuing to assert it as fact.
So far we have determined that according to you the only way for someone to know what sex they are is if they have a child or get genetically tested. What bathroom should I use? Don’t know because I haven’t had a child. My niece wants to join an after school sports team, guess we better have them genetically tested first so we know what team they are allowed to be on, because unless she gets pregnant there is no other way to tell.
You’re spewing lies. Please stop. Khelif admitted to being male. That’s indisputable. If you’re confused, please reread the article and above diagrams. It’s made to educate ignorant people. You can become educated.
Giving birth is one way of knowing. Please stop acting mentally disabled.
Pot, meet kettle.
Again, never actually happened. Only under your definition of male that no one else uses because it is completely useless as a classification.
You’ve said there are many ways to know, but somehow can only keep giving the same one. As I’ve said repeatedly: someone who has not given birth cannot know. I guess we should limit women’s sports to people who have been impregnated. That is the only logical conclusion I can come to from your arguments. Why else would you keep bringing up giving birth as “one way” (the only way) to know?
And some abelism for good measure. I’m expect to believe you are rational, level headed, and empathetic when this is how you respond to someone who disagrees with you?