Do you think the Taliban ‘fell out of a coconut tree’, as one of your politicians used to say? It is a successor to the Hezbi Islami, Haraqat Inqilab Islami and other factions of the Mujahideen. These were funded and armed by the US to destabilise the Soviets, with zero thought going into what would happen if a country’s government is weakened and religious zealots let loose with weapons and cash. (This is not to absolve Pakistan’s ISI, by the way. They wanted a weak and divided Afghanistan, and have helped various shady groups over the years.)
Do you think the Taliban ‘fell out of a coconut tree’, as one of your politicians used to say? It is a successor to the Hezbi Islami, Haraqat Inqilab Islami and other factions of the Mujahideen.
“Um, aktually, the Taliban is the successor to the Islamist groups it literally fought a brutal civil war against.”
Your intellect is truly frightening.
These were funded and armed by the US to destabilise the Soviets, with zero thought going into what would happen if a country’s government is weakened and religious zealots let loose with weapons and cash.
“if a country’s government is weakened”
I love how casually you gloss over the genocidal Soviet occupation as implicitly some form of harmless stability, but what should one expect from campist bootlickers?
the Taliban is the successor to the Islamist groups it literally fought a brutal civil war against.
Yes. The Taliban was a faction (well, a couple of factions) of the Mujahideen that then fought a civil war against various other factions of the Mujahideen.
I love how casually you gloss over the genocidal Soviet occupation
Genocidal? Taraki and Karmak were not perfect. They tried to change things too quickly, and angered many traditionalists and rural groups. But there’s a bit of a difference between ‘repressive’ or ‘harsh’ and genocidal. It’s the difference between, say, Saudi Arabia and Israel. Anyway, back to my criticism:
The US funded and armed a bunch of ultra-religious nutjobs to fight a government which, while far from perfect, had enacted reforms, protected the rights of women, and maintained a balance between the various tribes. It is not hard to predict what would result if that government collapsed, and, in fact, that is exactly what happened. Are all US military experts dumb? Or did they simply not care? Either way, they destroyed a country.
And then, of course, they repeated the same ‘mistake’ in Iraq, Libya and Syria. At this point, it is difficult to call it a mistake. Perhaps oil companies were involved.
Yes. The Taliban was a faction (well, a couple of factions) of the Mujahideen that then fought a civil war against various other factions of the Mujahideen.
Again, ignoring that the Taliban was formed largely by Pashtun religious students from Pakistan who were too young to have been involved in the Mujahideen.
Genocidal? Taraki and Karmak were not perfect. They tried to change things too quickly, and angered many traditionalists and rural groups. But there’s a bit of a difference between ‘repressive’ or ‘harsh’ and genocidal. It’s the difference between, say, Saudi Arabia and Israel. Anyway, back to my criticism:
Fucking lmao. Killing 10% of Afghanistan’s population is just ‘harsh’.
The US funded and armed a bunch of ultra-religious nutjobs to fight a government which, while far from perfect, had enacted reforms, protected the rights of women, and maintained a balance between the various tribes. It is not hard to predict what would result if that government collapsed, and, in fact, that is exactly what happened. Are all US military experts dumb? Or did they simply not care? Either way, they destroyed a country.
Did you forget that US aid to Afghanistan didn’t even start until the Soviets invaded to prop up their puppet government, which had failed of its own accord, not ‘maintained a balance between the various tribes’?
Again, ignoring that the Taliban was formed largely by Pashtun religious students from Pakistan who were too young to have been involved in the Mujahideen.
Heard of this guy called Mullah Omar? Google that name.
Fucking lmao. Killing 10% of Afghanistan’s population is just ‘harsh’.
Any evidence for this claim?
which had failed of its own accord
Again, evidence? The Afghan government was beating the terrorists even after the Soviets left, so on what basis had they ‘failed’?
Are you going to continue the ignore the point like the good little bootlicker you are, or are you going to try to make an actual response?
I can tell you where to start reading, but I’m afraid you’ll have to do the reading yourself. So, once again, Google that Omar guy. Read his Wikipedia page. You’ll learn about the Taliban’s connections to the Mujahideen.
There is generally accepted to have been well over a million civilian deaths in Afghanistan over the course of the Soviet invasion.
There are over ten million civilian deaths in my country every year. People die of all sorts of reasons. That’s not what ‘genocide’ means.
the Soviets invaded in order to prop up the government - ie the government failing was what initiated the invasion.
If you read the part of my comment you quoted, you might notice that I was talking about the period immediately after the Soviets left, when the Afghan army did win battles against the Mujahideen. In fact, the Soviets made the same mistake the US would make later - when you directly intervene in another country’s,internal matters, even the people who might otherwise have agreed with you will see you as an invader (because, well, you are) and fight you.
Do you think the Taliban ‘fell out of a coconut tree’, as one of your politicians used to say? It is a successor to the Hezbi Islami, Haraqat Inqilab Islami and other factions of the Mujahideen. These were funded and armed by the US to destabilise the Soviets, with zero thought going into what would happen if a country’s government is weakened and religious zealots let loose with weapons and cash. (This is not to absolve Pakistan’s ISI, by the way. They wanted a weak and divided Afghanistan, and have helped various shady groups over the years.)
“Um, aktually, the Taliban is the successor to the Islamist groups it literally fought a brutal civil war against.”
Your intellect is truly frightening.
“if a country’s government is weakened”
I love how casually you gloss over the genocidal Soviet occupation as implicitly some form of harmless stability, but what should one expect from campist bootlickers?
Yes. The Taliban was a faction (well, a couple of factions) of the Mujahideen that then fought a civil war against various other factions of the Mujahideen.
Genocidal? Taraki and Karmak were not perfect. They tried to change things too quickly, and angered many traditionalists and rural groups. But there’s a bit of a difference between ‘repressive’ or ‘harsh’ and genocidal. It’s the difference between, say, Saudi Arabia and Israel. Anyway, back to my criticism:
The US funded and armed a bunch of ultra-religious nutjobs to fight a government which, while far from perfect, had enacted reforms, protected the rights of women, and maintained a balance between the various tribes. It is not hard to predict what would result if that government collapsed, and, in fact, that is exactly what happened. Are all US military experts dumb? Or did they simply not care? Either way, they destroyed a country.
And then, of course, they repeated the same ‘mistake’ in Iraq, Libya and Syria. At this point, it is difficult to call it a mistake. Perhaps oil companies were involved.
Again, ignoring that the Taliban was formed largely by Pashtun religious students from Pakistan who were too young to have been involved in the Mujahideen.
Fucking lmao. Killing 10% of Afghanistan’s population is just ‘harsh’.
Did you forget that US aid to Afghanistan didn’t even start until the Soviets invaded to prop up their puppet government, which had failed of its own accord, not ‘maintained a balance between the various tribes’?
Fuck off, tankie.
Heard of this guy called Mullah Omar? Google that name.
Any evidence for this claim?
Again, evidence? The Afghan government was beating the terrorists even after the Soviets left, so on what basis had they ‘failed’?
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I can tell you where to start reading, but I’m afraid you’ll have to do the reading yourself. So, once again, Google that Omar guy. Read his Wikipedia page. You’ll learn about the Taliban’s connections to the Mujahideen.
There are over ten million civilian deaths in my country every year. People die of all sorts of reasons. That’s not what ‘genocide’ means.
If you read the part of my comment you quoted, you might notice that I was talking about the period immediately after the Soviets left, when the Afghan army did win battles against the Mujahideen. In fact, the Soviets made the same mistake the US would make later - when you directly intervene in another country’s,internal matters, even the people who might otherwise have agreed with you will see you as an invader (because, well, you are) and fight you.