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      1. People don’t have to be terrified for it to be terrorism

      2. I don’t think we see how they reacted, except that they suddenly decided to enter the war and treat the Dominion as an existential threat, as Garak intended.

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            The ones where you tried to pretend that it was terrorism when it obviously wasn’t?

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              Lmao blowing up a diplomat “obviously” wasn’t terrorism. Sure, buddy. I can’t tell who’s being more ridiculous between you and the person claiming he wasn’t gay-coded.

              You know you can still like the character even though he’s very obviously and objectively a terrorist? I do.

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                Lmao blowing up a diplomat “obviously” wasn’t terrorism.

                Yes, exactly. It was assassination.

                Look at the target. Was it a member of the general public? No, it was a diplomat, or at least a politician on a diplomatic mission. So, the public is unlikely to think that they’re in danger.

                Look at where it happened. Was it in a public area on Romulus or something? No, it was far outside Romulan territory. So, the general public is unlikely to think that they’re in danger.

                Was there any collateral damage? No, just the one person was killed. So, the general public doesn’t even think they could take damage as bystanders to another assassination.

                There’s no way a reasonable person could look at that and think it was terrorism, unless you broaden the definition of terrorism to include every possible violent death.

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                  So, the public is unlikely to think that they’re in danger.

                  Literally the whole point was to make the Romulans think that they’re in danger from the Dominion. You know, point 2 that I made earlier that you completely and arbitrarily ignored?

                  Look at where it happened. Was it in a public area on Romulus or something? No, it was far outside Romulan territory.

                  This is completely irrelevant. Imagine someone planted a bomb on a plane and it detonated while it was in the middle of the ocean. Would the distance make people not feel in danger and therefore make the act “obviously not terrorism” somehow??? What a completely absurd position.

                  Was it a member of the general public?

                  The target was a civilian (plus the crew, of course), and the general public does not have to be targeted for it to be terrorism.

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                    Literally the whole point was to make the Romulans think that they’re in danger from the Dominion

                    That’s not terrorism. That’s just fear of a war or betrayal.

                    Would the distance make people not feel in danger and therefore make the act “obviously not terrorism” somehow???

                    Was the Romulan senator on a space liner with lots of other passengers, or was he in his own private shuttle?

                    Again, terrorism is about a fear that someone who is merely a member of the general public might get killed or injured. Blowing up an airliner can be terrorism because you could think “that might have been me on that plane, they killed a lot of innocent people”. Blowing up someone’s private yacht is not terrorism because no ordinary member of the public thinks “that could have been my yacht!” In particular, blowing up the yacht, in “international waters” of someone who is going to make a deal with a dangerous potential enemy is not even close to terrorism. The target isn’t the public, there’s no collateral damage to members of the public, the location is somewhere they’d never be. There’s no fear that they could be next.

                    The target was a civilian

                    The target was a Romulan senator on a mission as a diplomat, not a member of the general public. The general public has to be convinced they’re in danger for it to be terrorism. Otherwise what? War is terrorism? A mob hit on another mobster is terrorism? The shootout at the OK Corral was terrorism? A 18th century duel is terrorism? A bullfighter getting killed by a bull is terrorism?