I’m in my master’s program for elementary education. If I saw this, I would just pull them to the side and ask them to translate it to me as English. If it comes out sounding plausible, I’d give them full points because they knew how to say it. They could obviously already read it since they knew how to answer the question. So the writing could come later if that was an issue. I could even try and decode it with a translator first before asking for their translation just to see if they were bullshitting me.
If it was a joke, I’d let it slide but let them know that in the future I need them to write it fully in English.
Yes! Thank you! This is how it should be done. Too much of my education was ruined by burnt-out, jaded teachers who wouldn’t even acknowledge your existence or even laugh at you when you don’t understand why points were subtracted in your test. You sound like someone who’s serious about this stuff, and I’m cheering you on!
Kinda weird how people hated learning so much they wanna project bad intentions on some question marks and innocence onto the little shit who thought they’d be “cute” and waste everyone’s time. This teacher had a stack of papers to grade. And it was a pretty meh joke in any case.
One time back in AP physics on a test I was prompted with “Find the accelerating force on the electron”. I could not think of the way to do that in the moment, so I literally wrote No, and wrote down a fake answer so I could use that number for the next part of the problem. I got back the test a few days later and the teacher wrote a smiley face down there. Apparently I made her laugh so long and so hard her family had to check in on her so she just gave me the points.
Back in middle school history, they wanted to know who the UK Prime Minister was during WWI, and I couldn’t remember so I wrote down James Bond, and got half credit for making the teacher laugh.
in college calc classes, my handwriting was famously quite poor. I’d scribble down some illegible notes and formulas, draw a few pictures illustrating the problem, then come up with a random answer. most of my classes graded work, not correct answers, so if I had an inkling of the right way to do it I could fake it and usually get at least 75% credit for the question.
always hated the questions that make you use the answer from previous questions. always a good time when you get to the end and have a nonsensical answer and have to redo 4 pages to find where you forgot to carry a 1.
when it’s every now and then it’s great! but some students try to get out of learning by being funny, and it’s your job to actually teach them something
On our German tests back in hs, there was a vocab section where we’d use words in sentences. I didn’t know one of the words in one of the tests, so I wrote “ich weiß nicht was <word> bedeutet”, which means “I don’t know what <word> means”. Our teacher accepted that one with a laugh, but said it was a one time thing and it would not be allowed again. People still tried their luck with similar tricks after that, but got nothing.
Me, I was just surprised she’d never seen that in her career before. I wasn’t expecting to get any points for that. Thought she for sure would have had other smartass students like me.
It’s being a dick to express confusion about why a student is mocking your lessons for them? But the student doing it is just a hilarious and harmless joker, of course. Pretty weird take tbh
You dont even know what subject this test was in. Judging from the information provided in the picture, the assignment was completed. If teachers want the kids to do stuff their way, they’ll need to put more effort into how they word their assignments.
Maybe I’m messed up somehow (I guess I am in the 98th percentile of dyslexics), but the instructions aren’t clear to me at all.
This happened a lot to me in reading comprehension exams in highschool as well. I would have hated the teacher and the class had I received a question like this, because I genuinely don’t know how to proceed.
Funny, I did so badly in highschool until grades 11 and 12, where I started the IB, got a different set of teachers, etc. And suddenly I get straight As (or in IB lingo, 7s) instead of Cs. And I think a big factor, not kidding, was the style and formulation of exams like these. It really does make a difference for some people.
Good test design would be to have Bob‘s first answer already filled in, so you get a pointer to how the dialogue is supposed to develop. Or just to have an oral exam, which I think are superior anyway.
Cool. I didn’t read your post history. But I can see here that you have no empathy for a teacher but will bend over backwards for a student trolling them.
I have plenty of empathy for good teachers that give a damn about the kids and don’t just write them off. But I guess your version of a good teacher is one that teaches the prime lesson: OBEY
Hhhhehhhhh… Why do some teachers feel the need to be such dicks? Just smile, have a laugh, get with the joke, let it spice up your life.
I’m in my master’s program for elementary education. If I saw this, I would just pull them to the side and ask them to translate it to me as English. If it comes out sounding plausible, I’d give them full points because they knew how to say it. They could obviously already read it since they knew how to answer the question. So the writing could come later if that was an issue. I could even try and decode it with a translator first before asking for their translation just to see if they were bullshitting me.
If it was a joke, I’d let it slide but let them know that in the future I need them to write it fully in English.
Yes! Thank you! This is how it should be done. Too much of my education was ruined by burnt-out, jaded teachers who wouldn’t even acknowledge your existence or even laugh at you when you don’t understand why points were subtracted in your test. You sound like someone who’s serious about this stuff, and I’m cheering you on!
I can laugh and not give them the points at the same time.
The “???” suggests they didn’t get the joke. Like come on, not even a sarcastic “very funny, 2/5”?
I read the ??? as “Are you fucking kidding me?”
What’s the joke?
That the conversation was continued, just not in English
And to be fair, nothing in the question specifies the language to continue the conversation in.
Sure it’s ESL class, but within the context of this question… No rules were broken.
Might as well continue the conversation with completely unrelated sentences. Maybe the testtaker is socially anxious and ignores Bob. Or murders him.
Nothing says directions have to be provided
Edit: to be clear, in the murder scenario the testtaker is not socially anxious.
It’s a very brave thing to do imo
That’s not a good enough joke for extra credit.
Kinda weird how people hated learning so much they wanna project bad intentions on some question marks and innocence onto the little shit who thought they’d be “cute” and waste everyone’s time. This teacher had a stack of papers to grade. And it was a pretty meh joke in any case.
Same score but an LOL instead of ???
No points for you then.
One time back in AP physics on a test I was prompted with “Find the accelerating force on the electron”. I could not think of the way to do that in the moment, so I literally wrote No, and wrote down a fake answer so I could use that number for the next part of the problem. I got back the test a few days later and the teacher wrote a smiley face down there. Apparently I made her laugh so long and so hard her family had to check in on her so she just gave me the points.
Back in middle school history, they wanted to know who the UK Prime Minister was during WWI, and I couldn’t remember so I wrote down James Bond, and got half credit for making the teacher laugh.
in college calc classes, my handwriting was famously quite poor. I’d scribble down some illegible notes and formulas, draw a few pictures illustrating the problem, then come up with a random answer. most of my classes graded work, not correct answers, so if I had an inkling of the right way to do it I could fake it and usually get at least 75% credit for the question.
always hated the questions that make you use the answer from previous questions. always a good time when you get to the end and have a nonsensical answer and have to redo 4 pages to find where you forgot to carry a 1.
when it’s every now and then it’s great! but some students try to get out of learning by being funny, and it’s your job to actually teach them something
On our German tests back in hs, there was a vocab section where we’d use words in sentences. I didn’t know one of the words in one of the tests, so I wrote “ich weiß nicht was <word> bedeutet”, which means “I don’t know what <word> means”. Our teacher accepted that one with a laugh, but said it was a one time thing and it would not be allowed again. People still tried their luck with similar tricks after that, but got nothing.
Me, I was just surprised she’d never seen that in her career before. I wasn’t expecting to get any points for that. Thought she for sure would have had other smartass students like me.
Thank you for having the sane take.
Plus, if that kid can write in Cyrillic cursive, good for them!
It’s being a dick to express confusion about why a student is mocking your lessons for them? But the student doing it is just a hilarious and harmless joker, of course. Pretty weird take tbh
You dont even know what subject this test was in. Judging from the information provided in the picture, the assignment was completed. If teachers want the kids to do stuff their way, they’ll need to put more effort into how they word their assignments.
This was very clearly an ESL class and it’s rather insane of you to assume from this screenshot that instructions were in any way close to unclear
Maybe I’m messed up somehow (I guess I am in the 98th percentile of dyslexics), but the instructions aren’t clear to me at all.
This happened a lot to me in reading comprehension exams in highschool as well. I would have hated the teacher and the class had I received a question like this, because I genuinely don’t know how to proceed.
Funny, I did so badly in highschool until grades 11 and 12, where I started the IB, got a different set of teachers, etc. And suddenly I get straight As (or in IB lingo, 7s) instead of Cs. And I think a big factor, not kidding, was the style and formulation of exams like these. It really does make a difference for some people.
Good test design would be to have Bob‘s first answer already filled in, so you get a pointer to how the dialogue is supposed to develop. Or just to have an oral exam, which I think are superior anyway.
This is a tiny cropping of the page. There’s barely anything to go on, yet you and op jump to conclusions that it’s unclear.
Judging from your post history, I only get the impression that you like to argue.
Cool. I didn’t read your post history. But I can see here that you have no empathy for a teacher but will bend over backwards for a student trolling them.
I have plenty of empathy for good teachers that give a damn about the kids and don’t just write them off. But I guess your version of a good teacher is one that teaches the prime lesson: OBEY