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The Democratic senator Ruben Gallego has proposed that, should Donald Trump try to sabotage the midterm elections, Americans should respond with a general strike that would “grind the country to a halt”.
Earlier this week the US president called for Republicans to “take over” and “nationalise” voting in at least 15 unspecified locations, repeating his false claims that elections are plagued by widespread fraud.
On Thursday Gallego, a senator for Arizona and an Iraq war veteran, warned that Trump could seek to interfere with the November midterms that will determine control of Congress – and urged citizens to fight fire with fire.
Well then why didn’t we grind the country to a halt over Palestine or Epstein or ICE or Venezuela or Greenland? Those things were WAY the fuck more impactful to the working class than your bullshit ass elections! It’s easy to see that the only thing that makes this “special” to the Democratic Party is that those spineless fucks would actually get fucked this time around.
Edit: to be explicit:
Of course we should do a general strike! We should do way more than a general strike!
If the Democrats actually manage to organize an actual general strike (which they won’t), then of course we should still do the general strike.
Whatever we do, general strike or otherwise, the working class must usurp control of the movement from the Democrats and make sure the Democratic Establishment is not allowed to direct it or be a part of it. E.g. if any of these Democratic Party fucks show up to the general strike, make them fuck off because they have shown themselves to be working for their faction of capital against the working class, and we’re not gonna buy their bullshit capitalist narratives.
What a dumb take.
I’m absolutely not saying not to do anything about it, in fact we should do a general strike, we should do way more than a general strike and we should have been doing it for literally decades, but whatever we do, do not let the Democrats control the narrative!
So you’re saying it’s generally a good idea but because now some of the Dems support the idea, we should no longer publicly support that plan because it might legitimise people you don’t consider left enough?
And you think that makes your point… Better, somehow?
No, they’re very clearly not saying that. They’ve explained themselves already, but to add to their point: Liberals have a long and consistent history of coopting working class movements, using them to achieve their own ends and then throwing the working class under the bus, going so far as to violently suppress the movement if it doesn’t fizzle out on its own. There is no reason to believe US liberals (aka Democrats and any Republicans willing to defect) won’t try to use this very successful playbook, so it needs to be counteracted starting right now. Organize a general strike and don’t let anyone who won’t support universal healthcare within a mile of it. The DNC isn’t currently the one holding the guns, but that doesn’t make them any less of an enemy to the working class.
This guy’s red line in the sand response is too little too late.
No. Let me be more explicit: I support a general strike. In fact I support more than a general strike. If the Democratic Party actually manages to organize (lol) a general strike or anything else (which won’t fucking happen because the Democrats don’t do shit), the working class needs to still do the strike, but appropriate and usurp control from the Democrats of whatever movement forms.
IMO the ideal situation would be that the working class organizes a sustained general and Democratic politicians show up in fake solidarity, and working people literally light the politicians on fire for just now deciding to act.
Nope, still not getting better.
Yeah we actually should be killing the power-wielding politicians who did the genocide and then think they can go into public spaces and be a part of our proletarian actions like we fucking forgot, and go fuck yourself if you are willing to excuse genocide so that your life can maybe get a little better
The left: “yes, you got that right, we should totally kill people that support our cause but in the wrong way.”
Also the left: “why can’t we get people on board?”
Oh my fucking God you 🧱 wall motherfucker we don’t WANT the fucking bourgeoisie and their politicians on board, so unless you’re a billionaire or politician then this isn’t fucking about you holy fuck why are you doing defense for the fucking rich people and their goons
Liberals try not to make everything about themselves challenge: IMPOSSIBLE!
Stop using quotes when it’s not a quote. I know people think it’s cute but you are coming off as being pretty unhinged here.
As unhinged as suggesting to… burn people?
As unhinged as letting the
capitalists keep genociding Palestinians, keep diddling kids, and keep destroying our species and our planet? Because that’s way the fuck worse than lighting the people who are doing and enabling all the previous things on fire.
“We should fight for democracy” straight to “we should literally light politicians on fire who don’t sufficiently agree with us” is quite the take.
Yeah we should fight for socialism, preferably anarchist communism, against liberal democracy. And to do this, we need to actually fight our battles in the ongoing class war. Which might involve lighting some bourgeois politicians on fire. Which is less deaths than letting the capitalist machine keep chugging 🤷♂️
Aaaaaand straight to “we should fight democracy”. Unbelievable.
“Damn fascists, killing people and destroying democracy! To protect people and democracy from them, let’s kill people and destroy democracy!”
Ah yes, liberal democracy = democracy, just like urinal cakes = cakes 🙄
Liberal “democracy” is democracy for the Epstein class but a dictatorship for the working class, and
is bar-none the biggest enemy of democracy. If you want democracy to flourish, then of course you need to fight against 
!