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But, a more practical and effectice way to address those things is to attempt to provide an alternate, more equitable, more transparent paradigm for its use.

Yeah, the issue is that I simply disagree, and consider the usage of models trained on data obtained without permission to be immoral, and thus unless the model is trained entirely on data supplied with consent (which is supposedly implausible), and thus people facilitating and/or promoting the usage of such to be… ethically unaligned me, and thus I don’t want to associate with them

All that said, I also don’t want to argue or try to convince you here, and want to thank you for being civil in the discussion

I’ve also seen a bit of this, and I also find it annoying… though 99% of the time that I see something like this, its some kind of like cryptobro, when lambo, diamond hands, type person.

I’m pretty sure some of the most popular communities on db0 use GenAI art for banner and icon - checking now, the banner art for piracy, ADHD memes, anarchism, yepowertrippingbastards appear to be GenAI (admittedly fewer than I expected), and the icon for the instance itself is suspicious.

Unfortunately though, that’s also not a problem exclusive to db0, and with the nature of federation it’s kinda inescapable when most people don’t care, unless I want to lock myself to niche communities.

I will also note, I believe db0 is hosting or participating in some kind of distributed GenAI network called The Horde, so it’s not just individual community members’ opinions, it’s an organizational endorsement of GenAI.

I want successful companies to last for a maximum of 30 years, then die off

Feels too extreme to me, forcing change on customers as the companies they buy goods or services from cycle out feels unnecessary. Companies existing for a long time should be fine if they don’t pursue endless growth.

IIRC people were testing cybertrucks for some auto-closing functionality, and if they encountered resistance, they would back off… Then try harder, slicing through hotdogs

At the risk of starting an argument (sorry)… I see any use of GenAI as support and endorsement of the technology, and I see the technology as a systemic attack on creative work by real people. It’s stealing the results of hard work of people to produce derivative work with the intent of replacing those same people. Thus, while self-hosting does remove some concerns related to big corporations, I think it still empowers them by supporting the tech they deal in.

I do block dedicated GenAI communities, but it’s more widespread than that, showing up in unrelated comms, being used to generate community icons and banners.

And of course an instance isn’t homogenous with regard to its users, and I don’t condemn people for using db0, but IIRC the host of db0 is supportive of GenAI, which is what I primarily referred to, and what steers the direction the instance is taking.

db0 is also pro-GenAI, which seems unfortunate to me.

Organon

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One thought I’d like to add is, not all art is meant to be “enjoyed”, and there’s value in art that invokes unpleasant, even painful experiences.

In a way, it’s the opposite of the meme, something that can be worthwhile yet painful if it “lands”, and boring/tedious and bland otherwise. Though I also know some songs that cover bleak topics that hit me personally, but are also absolute bangers, so those aren’t mutually exclusive either.

Reminded me of What Remains Of Edith Finch, it has a segment working on a line cutting fish heads off. Grab fish, put in guillotine, cut, next, over and over. The monotony and pointlessness of it, and what it does to the psyche.

Yes, the publishers have control over that, which is why I’m saying it doesn’t make sense to praise Steam over games on it going on sale.

That’s just the thing - the publicly visible rules are about the keys, but the email that’s part of evidence isn’t about the keys. (Also, steam isn’t just distributing the game, but providing other services for workshop, cloud saves, multiplayer, forums)

Valve gives you free steam keys for your game on request, which you can sell off steam, without paying Valve a cut. This has a specific rule that disallows selling those keys for a lower price. However, not sure if it’s this case, there was an email from a Valve employee submitted as evidence telling a game developer that selling their game for less in general would be undercutting steam, and something they wouldn’t want. If the email is real and not a misinterpretation, Valve indeed was/is pressuring developers to not sell games cheaper elsewhere.

Also, sales and giveaways are exempt from the steam key price parity rule, which I would assume epic’s free games would fall under, if you applied the rule to that despite not involving steam keys.

I don’t think the example at the end of your comment is relevant, since to my knowledge it’s the publisher deciding on pricing and doing sales, and steam is still taking the same cut.

I also think it’s generally not a great thing, since it basically puts the value of the game at $5, making it not worth getting off-sale, while also creating urgency to do so during a sale. I respect Factorio developers’ choice to just not do sales at all, and state so, so that buyers know exactly what the price is.

Not the same thing, since the movement of a shadow from point A to point B does not cause any transfer of energy or information between those points, whereas the shattering of glass can be initiated from point A and travel to point B at the given speed, transferring information (and possibly energy) between them.

As for not being a moving object, that’s fair, and why they mentioned it’s not quite the same thing in their comment.

Hell, I’ll deadass reheat my food mid-meal if it starts going cold, so I can enjoy the last bits just as much.

The great thing about ninite is how you can go there ahead of time and generate a single file, and when you’re done installing you just run that file. I suppose one could generate a batch script that installs stuff with some other package manager (you’d need to include install/update for it first, I remember reading about how Winget can come outdated with a broken version), but the issue with that is simply that ninite definitively exists and works reliably, while I don’t know any such service to generate install scripts.