I tie it all into how a public company’s board has a fiduciary responsability to the shareholders legally. Which means they can (and often do) get sued for doing whats best for the customer over the shareholders. It sometimes clicks with people.
And many who don’t see it aren’t dumb per se. They are more or less refusing to see it because they would have to realize that they are the slaves or pawns, or cogs in the machine. And they are not in control of thier destiny. Thats a hard thing for a lot of people to swalllow. Especially since there isn’t much they can do about it.

Great statement. But why?
Do the math on dollars per hour of entertainment. Games are comparably cheap at first glance. They problem is that people are cheap too. So they won’t pay more for a better profuct. That has led the industry to invent more ways to get your money. Microtransactions, dlc… I would pay $100 for a game like portal these days. It would be less than a dollar per hour enjoyed. And no extra costs. But instead we have thousands of “free” games that are now geared to be most enjoyed by the people who pay the most.

That said, today’s games aren’t just a cd in a package. Most require servers running to be played for the most fun. What I would like is more of a subscription to a server provider that pays for servers for all the games. It’s more efficient if you play lots of different games. And a lot less hassle.

Yes, but. If they add enough “special” things you need, that will reduce the number of average people and independent mechanics that will go through the trouble of getting all the “special” tools. Thier goal isn’t to stop you. It’s to inconvenience enough people so that they won’t bother. Which drives more business to thier shops, which in turn makes them more money. And since they are publicly traded, it doesn’t even have to actually make them money. Just make the market think it might.

Yes, and they were obviously functional too. So sounds like you at least agree on that point now. Probably the least relevant thing I said of course.

You seem to be assuming a lot about my intentions.
That said. Let’s take the indocturnation of the populace as an example. Just about all functioning governments do it. Some do it with the aim of making thier citizens happy, healthy, and productive. So do it to further exploit the people. The nazis did it to build a war machine. But the tool is the manipulation of the education system.

So if you say to me… the government is manipulating the education system, and so did the nazis. It’s not that much of an insult. If you say the government is manipulating the education system to build up a population they can call on to follow orders no matter how evil those orders are… now you are saying something very significant.

This administration is not only using the same tools the nazis did, but their intentions are very similar. The second half is a much more meaningful statement. And I am saying we should focus on their evil intentions instead of just dogwhistling. A lot of people don’t see the intended goals of this administrations actions, and they need help to see it, and hopefully join the fight. Many who are already in the fight, will fight harder when they understand more of the goals.

The general strike in Minneapolis was a possible turning point. It could have spread and snowballed. But it didn’t. Too many people just don’t see the goals of this administration. Too many people have become desensitized to the word Nazi. We need to counter the administrations propoganda with things more than just name calling.

Your last line was my point. Accomplishing the evils it accomplished is not a trivial thing to do. Those things took a lot coordination. So it was good at getting things done.

Well, it controlled all of mainland Europe for one thing. That’s no small thing.

Part of the issue is that for all it’s evil, the nazi government was a functional government. Look at all it got done. So any functional government will have parallels. So we need to focus more on the paralells in intentions that are not common to most functional governments.

Edit: For the slow people in the back… The nazi government managed to invade and conquer all (or nearly all) of mainland europe. If you have ever worked at a large company and seen how poorly company initiatives are organized, you know the nazis were well organized. The methods they used were effective, and have significant overlap with any government that can get things done. Which is why I am saying, focus on the evil intentions, instead of the methods.

In a tiny bit of fairness. The US gov has always done a lot of things just like the nazi’s. It’s oh soo much worse right now, and they are not trying very hard (or at all) to hide it like the past. But some people are just now coming around to see how much the government manipulates the people rather than help them. So don’t expect the next administration to “fix” these things.

I’m not debating that a person would lose. Just pondering where the line between losing and winning might fall. Any thoughts on that?

Very true. My mother in law calls it motrin. If I ask if she wants ibruprofen for a back pain, she says “no, but do you have any motrim”. It’s been like 20 years, she still can’t get it in her head that they are the same thing. Even advil is different in her mind.

I just wonder where the line is. Is it intent to harm. So if say the thing was a gift, and they didn’t know it was explosive. Would that absolve the person of guilt. Maybe it goes to manslaughter in that case?

Gotta ask though, if it needs to be shot to go off, is that really a booby trap? I have draino in my house, that isn’t a trap. Maybe you have to put a sign on it saying don’t shoot?

Pretty sure I didn’t say that. Both parties ensure you work for the rich. They just do it differently. So not identical. Think of it like a choice of two roads. One southwest, and one southeast. They go to different places, but they both go south. So overall, it’s going to get warmer.

Oh, and asking a question that poses your incorrect interpretation, then calling it stupid… is really saying your interpretation is stupid. What’s the problem with just asking a clarifying question and skipping the insult? This isn’t reddit.

I guess whoosh. You just couldn’t get past the list to see the point.

It’s called a list. We are talking about an organization with a trillion $ budget. They do lots of disjointed things. And I threw a little humor in. I am such a terrible person, I know.

Thats the problem. You can go through all the pain to move to an alternative, but eventually it enshitifys too. You could go open source, but those solutions rarely have the polish to get the large quantity of users needed for niche communities. And most users won’t understand why they are better anyway. So it’s just a horrible cycle.

First, I vote. But here is a take… I have heard countless people say that if you support the nazi’s in anyway, you are a nazi. Ok, so the entire US government serves the purpose of enriching the wealthy, empowering other governments to commit genocide, countless war crimes (well before trump), keeping people poor, ensuring healthcare is always expensive, and enabling car rental companies to not have the car you reserved and be penalty free, while if you don’t show, you pay them. So by voting you are participating in that government, which means you are responsible for all that.
Seems like a neat trick they came up with when they started having votes. You think you have a say, but really it’s just an illusion.

My childhood heros were the cartoon heros of the 80’s. And they all turned out to be lieing to us the whole time. Saying things like “evil never wins”, “crime doesn’t pay”, and all that. They were really just trying to reduce the competition.

There was video from what looked like a body cam. It was out shortly after the incident. I believe the article had some as well. Needless to say, boiling water is not life threatening. How can it be argued that they feared for thier life.