Unless we figure out a way to organize better, adapt to modern tools and get rid of the of guard nothing will change.

So a feels over reals.

Libs of tiktok has already started posting about this kid. The left didn’t bother to figure out how to defend their own. Confrontation is icky. They’re going to cook him

But also the owner wants to own things and be their own boss instead of having people tell them what to do. One thing I agree with the right on. Fuck working for somebody. Start your own business.

They’re making a great point and you come here with this stuff.

So I like this. But one issue this doesn’t actually hit hard is it’s no different than MAGA just yelling random shit on FOX. I feel like there’s no actually numbers behind this. Any data backing up that any company is making 300,000,000 worth of profit like this?

They’re still limited. Their algorithm can still be manipulated even when it’s weighing content to the right. It’s almost easier since it feeds you their content which makes it easier to counter their bullshit, overwhelm their messages they’re trying to get out, or just flat out troll the fuck out of them.

You’re actually proving the point. r/conservative is a sub reddit within the bigger site. Outside of it lots of people make fun and control the narrative on it. This takes their ability and usefulness away when it’s just bots communicating. It also let’s people become aware what the next talking points will be.

So why you prove my point is that individuals may be able to limit their comments on a post but the while site is harder to censor and with enough people working, you can disrupt their propaganda. Fascists grow on misinformation and displaying power through imagery. You tear them apart when Greg shows up in his nazi coat and people post instant memes on every platform. They grow when they control the narrative and they can’t control the narrative unless they remove us

The algorithm are controlled by engagement and profits, they’re not controlled by MAGA. MAGA attempts to steer the algorithm to their content by convincing the left to abandon all social media

They can only control certain aspects of the variable. They still have parts you can control. They still need their people to view posts and guess what, those posts still have comments.

I don’t actually think “they” control it in the way you think. I still think it’s profit and engagement based. They feed you stuff based on total user engagement. That’s why the are so many bots on the left that keep telling everyone on the left to disengage or quit the major platforms. They want to rebalance the algorithm to their content.

It’s a numbers game. The goal is to create more content. There’s a study that shows it takes a small percentage of a group to shift their views for the entire group to change. It’s 10%. The other aspect is the views expressed can’t be loose. They have to be incredibly immovable and confident. This is what the bots are doing on the right. The solution would be to mimic that, not avoid it. It just depends if you’re looking to stop or fight them or if you’re just casually wanting to observe and complain daily. Social media is one of the critical tools for fascists.

I disagree. I think social media plays a much larger role in this then anyone is willing to admit.

Just look at the effort by people who want power to to manipulate and own social media.

Whare i think needs to happen is the left need to go back to their roots. Create their own bots. Leverage ai. Confront them on every social media space

I worry that with the tools we have now, it changes how fascism works. They failed over and over and over until they are given what is essentially a nuclear weapon. It’s not just the internet. It’s amount of wealth in the hands of people who never deserved it. It’s the number of middling average men with tremendous power and money. It’s not like the 40s where there was more limits on basic things, logistic and communication.

I wish one day we can look back at all this like we do with McCarthyism. But I’m also really concerned we won’t

How do you know their age?

I’m with you, I just think on top of those we also need to focus on where people are. Facebook does the heavy lifting now. They show you the most popular right wing groups now. It’s easy to post to them

no they don’t. That is what they tell their people. Israel is a foot hold into the Arab countries. Any military needs to be able to deploy rapidly. First to the battle has strategic advantage and smaller less powerful armies have destroyed larger ones just with that advantage. Israel lets America control that area and gives intelligence that it wouldn’t have otherwise. Without Israel, they lose a major strategic advantage to controlling the Arab world. The Big J side is all woo woo. Not even sure I’ve seen anyone really say that. Almost all of America’s moves are to control territory that gives their military the ability to deploy rapidly and to control territory.

I think it’s a bold strategy to leave the bigger more populated and used platforms to constantly exist on the smaller less relevant ones that never grow and offer everything the major platforms do just worse.

Shall we take Stalingrad? nonono it’s full of nazi’s, lets focus on Dieppe

That doesn’t make any sense. We all left these platforms. Like an exodus. How would that make it harder for these nazi’s to take over these platforms?

Is that enough? Isn’t there only like 11 million on mastadon?

Makes me think they’re there to scan the entire stadium and upload it to their new tracking database