Yeah genocide is not about the actual harm you do in the real world, it’s about the harm you would have wanted to do if you could. According to this commenter’s speculation of how much you would have wanted it.
What a great definition. Are you fucking stoned or something?
I pointed out the numbers to show the hypocrisy, you’re right, if hamas had the means they would kill as many Israelis as they could, any oppressed would do the same to their oppressors, but if you look at the other side, the people with the means to do it IS ACTUALLY DOING IT.
So by your logic, thinking of doing major harm as some admittedly fucked up form of retribution, is the same as, or maybe even worse than actually doing said harm for no reason other than for materialistic gains, which the IDF is doing
The irony of comparing hamas to Nazis whilst there is a much better candidate for comparison, bombing children and hospitals in the name of killing hamas members is laughable.
Hamas has been gaining support due to the fact that they are the only ones willing to stand up to the nazis that have so far, killed 50,000 children, and laugh about doing so.
I’m aware that Canadians have done some absolutely deplorable stuff; so much so that they were considered savages in world war 2 for their brutality towards POWs; the whole Canadian nice guy routine is fairly new to the world stage. Of course us Brits have a bloodied and nasty history too, I’m not attempting to throw stones or anything like that, just highlighting the fact that I’m aware of Canada’s brutality in the name of peacekeeping rather than blinded by the ‘west is best’ rhetoric we’ve all been spoonfed growing up.
Does any of that mean that I think Hamas are the ones committing genocide, and that Israel are justified in their now 2 year genocide of Palestinians? Ofcourse not. My thoughts on the subject remain the same. Hamas are the only ones standing up for a people who have faced oppression from Israel long before they faced an active genocidal campaign. I don’t think they were justified in killing 54 people 2 years ago; I also don’t think killing 54 people justifies the systemic extermination of an entire country.
E2A: most Western media is owned by Zionists or allies of Zionists; if anything, we hear nothing but how justified Israel’s continued genocide is. It’s also why we see things like people protesting Israel in the west being silenced. Its laughable to suggest Iran have any sway in Western media, and are somehow rewriting the narrative, when the opposite is clearly true.
Dude, the mental gymnastics you’re having to do to justify a two year genocide is insane, I seriously think you should get some fresh air or something. Seriously…
I didn’t answer your question because I refute the very premise of it. You ask why killing everyone isn’t considered genocide, when that isn’t what happened. 54 people died in an (unacceptable) act of terror. Not a genocide.
Now, why do you feel a single day justifies a sustained 2 year genocide?
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Wait let me check the definition of genocide real quick
Ok, let me see
Yep, definitely a genocide, mhm
And since wasn’t actually investigated no one even knows how many were killed by hamas vs idfs apache gunships
This is literally an article from a israeli propoganda news outlet, if these are their numbers, then the actual numbers cannot be much higher
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Yeah genocide is not about the actual harm you do in the real world, it’s about the harm you would have wanted to do if you could. According to this commenter’s speculation of how much you would have wanted it.
What a great definition. Are you fucking stoned or something?
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I pointed out the numbers to show the hypocrisy, you’re right, if hamas had the means they would kill as many Israelis as they could, any oppressed would do the same to their oppressors, but if you look at the other side, the people with the means to do it IS ACTUALLY DOING IT. So by your logic, thinking of doing major harm as some admittedly fucked up form of retribution, is the same as, or maybe even worse than actually doing said harm for no reason other than for materialistic gains, which the IDF is doing
The irony of comparing hamas to Nazis whilst there is a much better candidate for comparison, bombing children and hospitals in the name of killing hamas members is laughable.
Hamas has been gaining support due to the fact that they are the only ones willing to stand up to the nazis that have so far, killed 50,000 children, and laugh about doing so.
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I’m aware that Canadians have done some absolutely deplorable stuff; so much so that they were considered savages in world war 2 for their brutality towards POWs; the whole Canadian nice guy routine is fairly new to the world stage. Of course us Brits have a bloodied and nasty history too, I’m not attempting to throw stones or anything like that, just highlighting the fact that I’m aware of Canada’s brutality in the name of peacekeeping rather than blinded by the ‘west is best’ rhetoric we’ve all been spoonfed growing up.
Does any of that mean that I think Hamas are the ones committing genocide, and that Israel are justified in their now 2 year genocide of Palestinians? Ofcourse not. My thoughts on the subject remain the same. Hamas are the only ones standing up for a people who have faced oppression from Israel long before they faced an active genocidal campaign. I don’t think they were justified in killing 54 people 2 years ago; I also don’t think killing 54 people justifies the systemic extermination of an entire country.
E2A: most Western media is owned by Zionists or allies of Zionists; if anything, we hear nothing but how justified Israel’s continued genocide is. It’s also why we see things like people protesting Israel in the west being silenced. Its laughable to suggest Iran have any sway in Western media, and are somehow rewriting the narrative, when the opposite is clearly true.
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Dude, the mental gymnastics you’re having to do to justify a two year genocide is insane, I seriously think you should get some fresh air or something. Seriously…
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I didn’t answer your question because I refute the very premise of it. You ask why killing everyone isn’t considered genocide, when that isn’t what happened. 54 people died in an (unacceptable) act of terror. Not a genocide.
Now, why do you feel a single day justifies a sustained 2 year genocide?
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This statement alone should get you banned from every single Lemmy instance. Zionist scum
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