• bizarroland@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    You can also compost the billionaire if you don’t want to consume them and allow the plants to do that for you.

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      2 months ago

      That is your reason for being vegan. There are people that don’t give a single fuck about animals but use the lifestyle to reduce their carbon footprint.

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        2 months ago

        The vegan society in the 40s, originally the vegetarian society, made the term to specifically get around the issue of people conflating being vegetarian for other things. Much easier to say vegan than ovolacto-vegetarian.

        Please just use the term plant based if you don’t value ethics.

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          You mean not fucking up the planet is not caring about ethics? You can call whatever you are doing plant based. Vegan is the rejection of animal products, if you do that because you are a lunatic or whatever is your thing I guess.

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          Well, times change and so does what words mean. Vegetarianism and veganism used to be somewhat radical philosophies, but nowadays, at least to me, they are normalised eating habits. I know all kinds of people who are vegetarian or vegan, with reasons ranging from health concerns to just not liking the taste of meat.

          And in any case, I think gatekeeping veganism this way does no good at all.

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        veganism has a specific history, and it has nothing to do with the environment. the vegan society was founded by the person who coined the term, and they have a definition.

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          I have been vegan for the past decade. I have done my research, plant based products are products that can’t be labeled as vegan because they for example use the same grill to cook plant based products and meat. That makes it none vegan.

          Even the wiki article from veganism states, that people that follow the vegan diet for environmental reasons are called vegans. Maybe you should stfu and read. Maybe your assumption about veganism is based off of the same things you base your assumption off of, that I don’t have anything to do with veganism.

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            Gentlemen, please; we’re all on the same team here. Veganism for any reason is good for the environment and the environment includes animals, in which not eating them is generally good for them.

            No need for any of us to name call or get upset with each other over this stuff. We’re all trying to make the world a better place, even if our methods are slightly different, we all believe the current way of life is unsustainable for humanity and are taking what steps we can to help.

            We need to unite, not divide.

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              2 months ago

              Veganism for any reason is good for the environment

              it would be, if it stopped the environmental impacts. it doesn’t.

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    It’s an appeal to futility to say that you shouldn’t do the good you can because you can’t do the good you want to.

    A world with no billionaires and no cars that still supports the industrialized slaughter of billions of sentient beings for the sensory pleasure of a privileged minority is still an evil place. That’s billionaire shit, right? Profiting off of the suffering of countless others who are trapped in a system that exploits them?

    Sure, the climate needs systemic change and one person can’t stop it, but do you think people who aren’t even willing to change their own lives are gonna change the whole system? Of course not. The first step is finding your courage and changing yourself. Then you work your way outwards and build community and then movements and then you change the system.

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    2 months ago

    This is a controversial statement.

    The existence of billionaires is why i will never check my green house gas emmisions.

    Nothing i could ever do would equal the lives of those bastards and what they produce.

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    2 months ago

    Seems a bit naive. The assets in one way or another would most likely just be redistributed to other billionaires.