• hoohoohoot@fedinsfw.app
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    7 days ago

    Which is still far superior than current capitalism.

    In this work, you are your own boss, you work when you want, from to until you want to.

    You decide the work for today.

    No stress, you want to go sleep or jackofr you can.

    You get all the profits

    You own it

    Etc.

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      6 days ago

      In this work, you are your own boss, you work when you want, from to until you want to.

      Sure. If you want to die.

      Hunter-gatherers work long hours not because they think it’s thrilling, but because if they don’t, they literally fucking die. Like, that’s the point of hunter-gatherer work. Not dying. That is what it is oriented towards. There is no local vegetable market they can go and buy food from.

      You decide the work for today.

      No, the season decides the work for today. And the weather, and the growing cycle of the plants, and the animal migrations. If you want to go against those rhythms, that’s just an elaborate way to perform suicide by starvation.

      No stress, you want to go sleep or jackofr you can.

      “No stress, just life or death.”

      Uh.

      You get all the profits

      You own it

      What profits? What ownership? You’re a hunter-gatherer. You can’t meaningfully own anything more than you can carry on you from place-to-place. That includes food stores. And every pound carried is an additional cost incurred in calories that you will have to work to make up for. And who are you going to trade with? Your fellow tribesmen, who are in the same position as you? They’re not going to have much to trade, and in any case, a ‘gift economy’ is more likely wherein it would be more accurate to say that you don’t really own anything so much as constantly owe the community.

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          6 days ago

          Who mentioned hunter-gatherers?

          The comment you literally responded to.

          This may be a shock but both hunter-gatherer and subsistence farming lifestyles are work.

          And implicitly, the comment that was responding to.

          Native tribes of the Americas circa 1400 AD at least

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              5 days ago

              … subsistence farming is considerably more work than hunting-gathering, and the first three points about work apply. The only point that doesn’t apply is the last one about mobility of property.