• ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml
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    Indiana Jones is a tough watch. Had to turn it off after 30 minutes or so

    Edit: Since a lot of people misunderstand me here.

    This is Indiana Jones, something I watch purely for entertainment, its not very entertaining to watch him berate and belittle a overly hysterical depiction of a woman for a full length movie. It’s not as if this is the absolute pinnacle of human culture, its a movie series made for entertainment. It still was an important part of the human experience for many. If my goal is to get a glimpse into how culture was earlier, then sure, but that was not my goal when I watched Indiana Jones.

    I loved Indiana Jones as a child, and wanted to introduce it to my wife as ENTERTAINMENT, not as an important cultural event that forever changed human culture.

    Sexism, homophobia, transphobia and racism was normal in older movies, and one should not dismiss old culture based solely on that. Many films are too great to pass up, Indiana Jones is not what I would prioritize to watch despite these issues.

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      Hopefully your don’t take that approach to everything cause being unable to mentally get over the fact people were different at different points in history. Sure makes it damn well near impossible to be well read or learned.

      You basically are willfully ignorant and blind to history. If you just can’t read or watch anything that doesn’t perfectly match modern sensibilities.

      The sheer glut of fiction that is so unbelievably foundational to modern literature that is beyond racist and sexist. Is uncountable.

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        It’s not even a good movie to begin with, no need to give it a pass on the sexism and other issues

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        Of course not. This is Indiana Jones, something I watch purely for entertainment, its not very entertaining to watch him berate and belittle a overly hysterical depiction of a woman for a full length movie. It’s not as if this is the pinnacle of human culture, its a movie series made for entertainment. If my goal is to get a glimpse into how culture was earlier, then sure, but that is not my goal when I watch Indiana Jones.

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      No kidding! I see you’re getting down voted since it was a beloved classic, but I encourage people to rewatch it. And Temple of Doom was so much worse. My whole family was blown away by the sexism and racism when we watched it again last year.

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        He’s getting down voted cause judging past eras by modern standards. Is about as brain dead fucking stupid as you can get.

        The majority of all works are sexist, racist or have some form of hate in them. Because that’s just history. People were what they were and the faults of the past or the failure is of the writers who created those works. Do not make the works lesser.

        Indiana jones is factually still one of the most defining films in history. While it’s entirely their right to not watch it because they find it not palatable. That is a personal opinion and choice.

        But to say the movie is bad because it contains things that they cannot stomach is just not accurate. The movie is accurate and true to the era. It takes place in if it did not contain sexism or racism in instances and circumstances where they would be in fact called for given the time frame. And the movie would just be bad.

        People were different in the past. People of today. Need to get the f*** over that.

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          I agree.

          When we were a young married couple decades ago, we’d check out movies from the library on VHS tape. One we loved was Topper. In the VHS transfer, there was a line from the protagonist giving “good advice” to another main character: “You haven’t lived until you’ve beat your wife.” In all earnestness.

          That line was mysteriously missing from the DVD and all subsequent versions I’ve seen.

          I think it is detrimental to society to whitewash shameful past behavior. We need to acknowledge it, remember how bad things have been, and respect the progress that has been made. It also helps us reflect on ways we might be acting now that could be viewed as horrific or backwards in the future. It helps drive continuing progress.

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          This is Indiana Jones, something I watch purely for entertainment, its not very entertaining to watch him berate and belittle a overly hysterical depiction of a woman for a full length movie. It’s not as if this is the pinnacle of human culture, its a movie series made for entertainment. If my goal is to get a glimpse into how culture was earlier, then sure, but that is not my goal when I watch Indiana Jones.

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        Temple of Doom/Indiana Jones is sorta loosely based on the TinTin comics, which Spielberg later made a movie of also. The whole thing seemingly takes place in the 1920’s when those comics did, and that depiction of India is right in line with the 1920’s and how it would have been depicted then.

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        Yes, the sexism is so incredibly obvious. Probably the racism too, but I either did not notice too much or did not watch enough of it. I used to love those movies as a child