She didn’t get permission first.

The rule is to present your hand for inspection. They will sniff, and then in Soviet Russia the cat will pet you.

YMMV with people.

I agree that they’re not mutually exclusive. I wasn’t saying that they were.

I was pushing back against the idea that age verification is the best and only reasonable response to our internet problems (the “lesser of two evils” argument).

I personally exclude age verification when other, better options - like the ones mentioned above - exist and haven’t even been tried.

It’s like watching someone try to build a fire, fail, and then chuck a grenade in the firepit.

It’s easy, but it’s not going to get you the result you were hoping for and it’s likely to make everything worse.

My reply here.

Tl;dr:

• Support decentralized alternatives*
• Exercise parental controls on-device and IRL
• Teach the children what we learned

It’s not a magic bullet, but it’s better than putting the Epstein class in charge of protecting the children.

*Obviously, there are cesspools on the Fediverse, too. But we’re incentivized and empowered to curate and to moderate these spaces, in ways that we’re not on Twitter.

There is no ‘we’ in your hypothetical

We is everyone that isn’t those companies and is impacted by social media.

The only power you or I have is local, and this is a national problem.

We do have little power on a national level, but that doesn’t mean the only power we have is local.

Sure, we can’t flip a switch tell the engineers to program a switch and flip it for us like Musk and Zuckerberg can, but that’s not the only power that matters.

We can build and support alternatives to addictive, enshittified centralized tech (like the Fediverse). I was offered the “choice” of accepting a degraded Twitter experience or paying for Twitter premium. I chose to check out Mastodon.

We can use the parental controls we do have, both inside the ecosystem and in the real world. No screens in the bedroom or at the dinner table. No smartphone until you’re 16. Schools that ban phones in the classroom. Venues that ban phones during shows.

Edit: Another option is educating ourselves and our children to be safe on the internet. I had to learn that the correct response to “what are you wearing” is “a robe and wizard hat” and then blocking the pedophile all on my own because my parents didn’t know those threats even existed. I do. Most parents in 2026 do.

I’m not imaginative, but we have a lot more power than just choosing between “let it suck forever” and “give up even more of your privacy and I’ll pretend to fix the problems I created/encouraged because I make more money that way.”

Reminds me of Bruce Sterling’s Swarm. (It was adapted into a Love, Death, and Robots episode.)

“You are a young race and lay great stock by your own cleverness,” Swarm said. “As usual, you fail to see that intelligence is not a survival trait.”

Upvoted because it is a controversial take.

My problem with age verification is that what we’re being sold is not what we’re going to get.

“Choosing the lesser of two evils” implies that only two options exist. When the same companies are responsible for both evils, we should be talking alternatives, not letting them make us decide between getting punched in the face and giving up our lunch money to make it stop.

An alternative wouldn’t just have to be close to discord, it would have to actually be better so people use it.

There’s always the possibility Discord goes the Microsoft route: making themselves worse.

From one of the Related Articles :

“I was just caught off guard and had no answer for my grandsons. All my gay friends [know] what’s up, they been calling me with love,” Snoop Dogg wrote. “My bad for not knowing the answers for a 6 yr old 😳. Teach me how to learn I’m not perfect.”

Good on his friends for calling him in.

Whatever his reasons for “going woke”, I prefer to see this route to the JK Rowling route.