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      right? that was just a general statement that someone’s doing a bad thing.

      zero claims were made in this tiny snippet of a much longer conversation

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      In the part where Iraq must be liberated from the evil dictator for freedom and Democracy.

      Iran shut down US-Israeli backed terrorists. Not whatever fairy tale AOC is propagating.

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        You can be against foreign interference while not whitewashing human right abuses.

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          Would you say the same thing if Iran backed a massive terror network in the US which started massacaring people and set US infrastructure on fire?

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            If the USA was an authoritarian country and was oppressing the opposition and another country want to start a war with them under that pretext but their real intention is a failed state then yet I would say the USA is doing human right abuses but it doesn’t justify foreign intervention .

            The same human right organizations that expose Israel human right abuses are also show that human right abuses exists in Iran

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              Thank you for this great lesson on victim blaming and both sides nonsense. Do not forget to condemn Hamas while you are at it.

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                If I said Israel and the USA had the right to interfere I would be both siding and victim blaming but I didn’t say that. Iran has the right to defend itself against the terrorist state of Israel and the United Snakes . No amount of human right abuses from Iran will change my stand. Hamas is a resistance group that should not disarm until the occupation end , it doesn’t mean I should support when they kill civilians and when they kill civilians it doesn’t mean they can no longer defend Gaza and fight against the genocidal force

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    The ongoing campaign to paint AOC as a neoliberal centrist in progressive spaces is so tiring and predictable.

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        She’s one of the very few people in congress who does not accept corporate or foreign donations. She’s also hugely popular, especially among young people.

        At the same time, Zohran is already delivering in NYC – when 2028 comes around, he will likely be massively popular and AOC’s association with him will give a ton of weight to the feasibility of a bold progressive vision to rebuild.

        The corporate/ruling class is rightfully threatened by the possibility of an AOC presidential run – whether you mean to or not, you’re doing their work for them.

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          She is sending missiles to Israel and spreading obviously false hoaxes that Iran has killed tens of thousands of people. The cope is unreal.

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    Let me guess, the Iranian government is innocent and the people looking to change it are rioting militias paid off by some shadowy cabal to overthrow them? CIA everywhere man…

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      The large part of protesters are legitimate protesters but it is fact that Israel and the USA are backing rioters. The hypocritical west who is backing up genocides and civil war all over the place should shut the fuck off.

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      We can pretend the Mossad did not say they directly armed and instructed the rioters by typing it very sarcastically.

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          The country who is committing a genocide in Gaza and the country who bombed the biggest numbers of countries and assisted the biggest number of regime changes are backing people on the right side of history?

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          Thank you for explaining you support US imperialism. Iranians suffer from US sanctions not what you have been brainwashed to believe.

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              Yes and terrorist countries like Israel and the USA are even worse and you still support them attacking another country. Did you also support the Iraq war?

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              Thank you for your insightful justification of the the US should murder millions more brown people and US backed terror groups are the fault of the brown people.