I have spent hours looking through the files and some of the stories are absolutely disgusting. I am having such a hard time because so many citizens don’t even know how awful they get and they aren’t all even fully released… I am close to feeling like we need pitchforks, torches and shovels if this justice system won’t actually do anything… He had a ranch where a witness wrote in saying there are TWO bodies located on the property and they haven’t even reported that in the media. I’ll link that one below too. It’s just so… Horrible. We can’t just pretend this doesn’t exist… but idk what happens next for the United States and the world. It’s not something a country just moves on from.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA00078198.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA01249507.pdf

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    No one is asking about the girls that did not make it back from the island. These criminals are lucky we are no longer in the medieval period

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    I saw a video recently about there being bulldozers at the ranch moving things… I’m not sure if I can find it again but someone needs to keep track of these assholes

    Edit: found it but it won’t let me upload It’s over here https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSmk7QBJb/

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    It’s funny, that the files has already had a lot mlre consequences in europe than in the us. Even though 6 in the top of your current administration is mentioned a lot more fucking times than even the worst in europe. (I hope they imprison prince andrew for lfe btw)

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    Crist… whoever is responsible for this, or did this to another human being needs to be fucking shot. Not in the head, no no… but in the knee caps, shins… everywhere to make it just-as, if not more painful than the pain their victims felt.

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    This isn’t just about America, or MAGA, or even Trump. I always understood that this was an international enterprise, but as I read this stuff, I’m realizing that it was bigger and uglier than my worst imaginings.

    I just read about a wealthy guy in a Detroit in the 70s who ran an Epstein-like operation on an island he purchased in one of the Great Lakes. He built a giant mansion on it, and started hosting underage sex parties for wealthy men. The article suggested that he might have been an inspiration for Epstein.

    The point is that these people have always been here, and now that Epstein is gone, someone else will be taking his place. Nobody understands the scope of Epstein’s business better than his best friend Trump, who also recognizes how lucrative it is, and he is psychological incapable of resisting those riches.

    He also has easy access to plenty of sex products. He has enormous detainment centers full or poorly documented children, separated from their families, lawyers, or anyone else who might care about them. They could be disappeared for a long time before someone notices, if ever. I’m sure we’ll find that the prettiest ones, of both sexes, are being scheduled for transfer…somewhere.

    Putin has also kidnapped thousands of Ukrainian children, another source for East European girls, for those who aren’t turned on by brown children.

    You can bet that someone is rebuilding an international child sex operation somewhere, and I’m betting that Trump is in on it.

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      It gets even worse when you realize that the reason why these people don’t want social programs is because they need poor, vulnerable kids to prey on. They managed to convince people to literally sacrifice their children, albeit quite indirectly.

      Makes you think about USAID…and wtf DOGE may have destroyed there. DOGE’s whole point was to burn as much evidence as fast as possible. Wonder how many of those 125+ year old SSI beneficiaries managed to show up to vote in 2024.

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      and these are the people Iranian diaspora are begging to drop bombs on Iran. I bet their ancestors would be rolling in their graves because of the disgrace some of these diaspora Iranians have become.

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      You can bet it doesn’t need to be rebuilt because it never stopped and Epstein was just part of an international ring that involved people from all kinds of positions of authority. In my city alone there were law enforcement , boy scout leaders, and Catholic priests all enabling each other and helping to cover up their crimes while flying people in from all over the world to do this fucked up shit.

      Thats one city. Imagine that kind of fucked up shit has been happening all over the world for decades or maybe even centuries. No way in hell it ever stopped because Epstein was indisposed.

      You know that plot in the original true detective about the Louisiana pedophile murder ring? It turns out that was almost certainly based on real stories.

      I will say that it’s fucking insane to think about the fact that Trump and all of his oligarch friends have now legalized kidnapping and trafficking people thanks to ICE/DHS. The implications of what they’re almost certainly continuing to do out in the open have got to be pretty obvious, right?

      Kidnapping so many people that you can just get away with just losing track of them? Why wouldn’t they just keep doing the same shit they’ve always done?

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    Anything less than death is far too little for these sick fucks.

    Swift and quickly, this needs to end and be left in the past.

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        Only if you reject a large body of research on that matter conducted by hummanity over centuries. Ie. impaling seems a reasonable compromise between unpoetic justice and a nod the conservative traditional aproach.

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        I’m fine with an easy out.

        I don’t need them to think about their actions. I don’t need them to stew and marinate in their guilt. I certainly don’t need them to have avenues to still exert influence.

        They need to die, anything else is a distraction.

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          This is my position. Just kill them and move on, we need to make humanity better. There are people who need rescue and care.

          Mind, we should keep monsters like Maxwell alive for awhile…so that we can get information about where the innocent have been trafficked. One entire year for all the actionable information that Maxwell and company are willing to trade. No bargaining, nor exceptions, just a delayed execution after the plea deal is struck. Without the deal, immediate execution after a brief trial.

          …I am hoping that there are enough little black books, that delayed justice isn’t needed to save the innocent.

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    This is what I don’t get when folk online treat girls under 18 of any age as the same thing. A full grown person who’s a 30 something adult being with a 17 year old is exploitative, controlling and weird.

    Being with an 8 year old is monstrous and, frankly, worthy of the death penalty.

    I’m not excusing the first, but do people really see no difference? If you need a legal line in the sand to determine if it’s either totally fine or straight to the guillotine then maybe there’s something wrong with you.

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      Both deserve jail time, and the only people who really care that much are usually from the former group distancing themselves from the latter.

      Both are fucking gross. I don’t care who’s more evil, I both want them shot into the sun. Second one just might deserve a slower ride so they feel the burn a bit more.

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      Pedophilia is the attraction to children younger than 12-10 to around 3, this is what was occurring mainly within that island. Of course, there where women within their teens and adults which don’t technically qualify as pedophilia but are referred to it either way - which is incorrect.

      Of course, pedophilia according to dsm5 on itself is listed as a mental disorder, nepophilia is also included. However, it is to say, attraction to those above 13 is not considered as a mental disorder. It also helps to know, that biologically such individuals are closer to adults than children, so it goes in hand with your last paragraph.

      It is the sake that the legal line is essentially an “anchor” point, especially since we still believe in hoaxes which are related to growth and maturity. As such this incorrect view is projected to everyone even if the facts are different to what people expect.

      In essence, the whole premise overall seems to be fueled by misinformation which is causing the whole “under 18” group to appear as one and the same, no matter the age. This is a major problem I agree, and the misuse of the word pedophilia tells a big story about it.

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        The reason you don’t hear more people explaining the difference between being a pedophile and being an ephibophile is that it makes you look like a pedophile.

        Case in point.

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          there’s a joke that goes technically there are 3-4 different words for what the layman calls pedophilia, but the only people who know the difference are psychiatrists and pedophiles

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          That is true, it is the case for all minor attractions. Within the current situation, the most prominent issue is that information is not factually based and definitions are skewed. Like the original commenter had said, this introduces ambiguity.

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        I swear to god if fedi starts defending “ephebophilia” as if its meaningfully different enough to matter I’m going to start cutting dicks off lmao.

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          You’re missing the point here. This isn’t about defending whatever you seem to disagree on. Its the fact that you seem to think critical analysis is meaningless and “indifferent”. The first commenter had this message instilled, yet you are correlating this to things which where not even mentioned.

          In respect to the post itself, then yes the age designation is meaningless as you cannot redefine rape and abuse. It is pretty clear that this comment thread was for a specific issue.

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      an 18 dating a 16 is one thing, and whatever justification can be used then is not applicable to a 30yo dating a 16 yo, let alone any younger… and any argument made by those pedos deserves no response besides putting them on a list